Hmm. Then it made a liar out of the FM10 help, too. Maybe that “rasterization” 
language was left over from earlier releases…

From: Lin Sims []
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:16 AM
To: Combs, Richard (CW)
Cc: Davis, David;
Subject: Re: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

And it's making a liar out of me. I just tried it again, and this time it 
Honestly, sometimes it isn't even worth banging your head against a table.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Lin Sims 
<<>> wrote:
I tried that, too, actually. First thing I did, and I should have listed it.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Combs, Richard (CW) 
<<>> wrote:
If what the FM10 help says is correct, this is because FM10 apparently didn’t 
import the graphics in native SVG format (emphasis added):

When importing a Scalable Vector Graphic (SVG), the SVG Import dialog box 
allows the user to select the rasterization quality of the image. By increasing 
the rasterization quality, printed and PDF versions are crisper; however, 
increasing the rasterization also increases the file size of the image, and it 
takes longer to import it.

FrameMaker prints Scalable Vector Graphic (SVG) images to PostScript printers 
by rendering the images as vector graphics using Encapsulated PostScript (EPS). 
For non-PostScript printers, FrameMaker uses the FrameImage format.
If I’m interpreting this correctly, FM10 converted SVGs to raster (bitmapped) 
images on import. It rendered those bitmaps as vector graphics when outputting 
to a PostScript device (printer or PDF), but at that point the text is not 
text, just lines – vectors describing a sequence of dots.

So the damage is done upon import, and nothing done subsequently can undo it. 
You have to reimport the original SVGs.

My sympathies.

 On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:22 AM
To: Davis, David
Subject: Re: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

Are these brand new files created by FM12, or are these files you converted 
from an earlier version? I ask because I've discovered that (at least for me) 
the text-searchable SVG graphic bug, which is listed as fixed for FM12, is only 
fixed if you're talking about new documents. None of the documents I have that 
were converted from FM10 to FM12 will produce PDFs with text-searchable SVG 
graphics. All of the documents that are created in FM12 produce PDFs with 
searchable SVG graphics.

So far I've determined that MIF-washing doesn't fix this, that you can't simply 
import the contents of the FM10 file into the FM12 file, and that you can't 
copy & paste using the Frame Interchange Format. Copy & pasting as Unicode text 
does work, but of course you then have to reapply all your formatting tags and 
recreate all your xrefs and conditionaled content. Oddly, you can copy and 
paste the tables in without causing an issue.

Note that my company's workflow is to use unstructured FM with embedded 
graphics; I do not know if this applies to structured FM or XML files or 
referenced graphics.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Davis, David 
If people have a problem with a specific bug, I really would recommend logging 
it in the Adobe bug tracker.
When I logged my CMYK issue, there was already one other bug report in there 
for the same thing, and I did get a fix within about 3 months,
which is a pretty good turnaround for a behemoth like FrameMaker!
The more people log a bug. the higher a priority it will get with their dev 

From: Denis Daly [<>]
Sent: 27 February 2015 08:56
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (<>); 
Davis, David;<>
Subject: RE: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

Please keep us informed of your experiences with the CMYK issue Syed.

I (along with many others) was hoping this latest update would have solved the 


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