Agreed.

This is not a legal opinion, but in my limited expertise, it (the patent) would 
be likely invalidated due to "prior art", based on prior heartbeat. I doubt the 
patent holder will try to sue for these claims since an invalidation on a few 
claims would cast doubt on the other claims in the patent as well.

Z

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harding, Dan
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 7:10 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Is the use of master pages a patent infringement?

Desktop publishing software of all makes have been using "Master Pages" far 
longer than since 2008. That patent would be very difficult, if not impossible, 
to enforce. This is a case where the patent office did not sue its due 
diligence in awarding the patent, IMO.

-Dan


From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com>
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Klaus Daube
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:38 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Is the use of master pages a patent infringement?

By chance I came along US patent 
7472343<http://www.google.co.in/patents/US7472343>, Publication date30 Dec 2008.

Claim 1 reads:
A computer-implemented method of generating data representing a master document 
for use in an automated document generation system, the master document 
including predetermined elements of document content selected by rules 
operating on input information, comprising:
storing data representing a first mark-up notation or style and data 
representing a second mark-up notation or style different to the first mark-up 
notation or style;
...
Claim 18 reads:
A computer-implemented method of generating a master document for use in an 
automated document generation system from an existing precedent for use in 
manual document generation, the master document including predetermined 
elements of document content selected by rules operating on input information, 
comprising:
storing data representing a first mark-up style or notation of existing 
precedents for use in manual document generation and data representing a second 
mark-up style or notation of master documents for use in an automated document 
generation system;
...

Well, as a European I have strong problems with the US patent law anyway. But 
there are more strange things around, which lead to the following statement in 
the documentation of Citavi<http://www.citavi.com/>, a pendant to 
EndNote<http://www.endnote.com/>. I strongly assume  that the patent is held by 
the EndNote maker (Thomson Reuters (Scientific) LLC).
«
In Citavi 3 it was possible to insert references into a document using place 
holders. These place holders were then converted to formatted citations in a 
second step. At the same time, a bibliography was created. This option worked 
with all programs that support rich text format (rtf), including OpenOffice 
Writer, LibreOffice Writer und Scrivener.

Recently this place holder conversion process was protected by a patent. As 
long as this patent is valid, we are unable to offer the option to convert 
place holders in the United States.

What does this mean for you?
* When you download and install Citavi 4 in the United States, this feature is 
not available.
* If you download and install Citavi outside the United States, this feature is 
available. However, it will be deactivated if you are using Citavi in the 
United States based on your IP address.

What implications does this have in Citavi 4?
* If you use Citavi with the Add-In for Microsoft Word or with a LaTeX-Editor 
or if you do not use Citavi to create publications, this restriction will not 
affect you.
* If you want to use Citavi with other word processors, you cannot do so in the 
United States.
»


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