Hi, Melanie: Here's the problem, according to my quick tests and examining MIF files:
* In a new file, based on standard FM templates, the default table format A has no footing row, and the paragraph format catalog has no definition for CellFooting. However, in the MIF file, you can see that the format A table definition has a statement to use the CellFooting paragraph format for cells in a footing row. * Adding a footing row to a format A table creates CellFooting tags in the cells, but CellFooting is not in the paragraph catalog, so the tag information area (left end of status bar) displays *CellFooting. I think the CellFooting paragraph format is cloned from the existing CellHeading format, but it might be generated from some other source. * Adding the CellFooting paragraph format to the catalog locks in a definition for it. I think you can accomplish what you want by creating a definition for the CellFooting paragraph format in the catalog, using a font you have. Table footing rows you create will look in for CellFooting and if it exists in the catalog, they will use the font you have specified. I believe that this approach will preclude FM trying to find the hidden, elusive, maddening, "ghost," location of TimesNewRoman and variations. HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices At 11:45 AM -0600 3/24/06, Melanie Raney wrote: >Rick, We constantly have the same issues you're having. Every time we >try to print, create a PDF, or regenerate the books, we get the missing >fonts list: 'TimesNewRoman' and 'Times'. > >We aren't using either of these fonts, and no manner of search reveals >them in the FM file. >When I look at the MIF, I see something very similar to what you have >shown below but replace `TimesNewRomanPSMT' with 'TimesNewRoman' in >mine. In addition, 'Times' never shows up in our MIF at all. > >I've tried the suggestion of replacing all the table formats. However, I >don't want the default table formats to have footer rows (because 95% of >our tables don't need a footer row), so I update the formats with footer >rows then try deleting the footer rows and updating again. This is in >the hopes that it remembers how the footer row is supposed to look even >though its not inserted in the table. This results in no joy for >eliminating the bad font... Keep getting 'TimesNewRoman' showing up the >footer row definition. But, get this, when I insert a footing row in a >table, it is always formatted correctly, using the correct paragraph >tag/font... Craziness! > >I'm watching closely to see if anyone can help you figure this out. > >Sharing your pain, > >-- >melanie raney > > >-----Original Message----- >From: framers-bounces+raney=earthdecision.com at lists.frameusers.com >[mailto:framers-bounces+raney=earthdecision.com at lists.frameusers.com] On >Behalf Of Steve Rickaby >Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:12 AM >To: framers at FrameUsers.com >Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Lurking fonts: for info > > >Further... > >In one specific instance, in the MIF, FrameMaker is claiming that the >table heading style for the unstructured master page maps table is >LetterGothicMT and missing, when it's absolutely LetterGothicLT and >present. Telling it to forget the 'missing' font converts the table >heading font to TimesNewRomanPSMT - but the font is still correct and >LetterGothicLT in the document. > >Inserting a new unstruct master page table does not reveal any missing >fonts. > >This is all most confusing. > >Here's the MIF... > > <Tbl > <TblID 14> > <TblTag `UnstructMasterPageMaps'> > <TblFormat > <TblColumn > <TblColumnNum 0> > <TblColumnWidth 13.91412 pc> > <TblColumnH > <PgfTag `TableHeading'> > <Pgf > <PgfFont > <FTag `'> > <FPlatformName `M.TimesNewRomanPSMT.P'> > <FFamily `Times New Roman'> > <FVar `Regular'> > <FWeight `Medium'> > <FAngle `Regular'> > <FPostScriptName `TimesNewRomanPSMT'> > >-- >Steve >_______________________________________________ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as raney at earthdecision.com. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/raney%40earthdecisio >n.com > >Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >_______________________________________________ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as peter at knowhowpro.com. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/peter%40knowhowpro.com > >Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.