And there are hundreds of Dell laptops with XP in their Outlet store,
which is always my favorite spot for saving a few bucks while


On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Dennis Brunnenmeyer
<dennisb at> wrote:
> As of tonight (June 19th), the HP Compaq web site still lists their
> top-end notebooks with "Vista downgrade to Windows XP"  as an optional OS.
> My HP/Compaq nw8000 has given excellent service. The HP Compaq 8710w
> available now is a relatively costly computer but inexpensive when
> you consider its value with respect to salaries and time.
> Dennis Brunnenmeyer
> ***************************************
> At 01:06 PM 6/19/2008, Rene Stephenson wrote:
>>You're right, Dennis. I checked with an IT guru buddy who has done a
>>lot of reworks of Vista machines when his clients got bitten by one
>>of its bugs and wanted to roll back to XP, and he said it was a
>>complete nightmare, every single time, and a couple of times was
>>such a colossal headache that he just told the client to return the
>>computer for a refund and buy an XP machine. He said if I go to a
>>Vista box, I'd better be prepared to do it come what may without looking back.
>>Rene L. Stephenson
>>----- Original Message ----
>>From: Dennis Brunnenmeyer <dennisb at>
>>Whatever you do, don't fall into the trap of buying a Windows-based
>>laptop with VISTA installed on it, hoping to *upgrade* to Windows
>>XP. In some cases, this is possible, but look into it first. With
>>brand new hardware designed for VISTA, you may not be able to find
>>XP-suitable drivers. Your best best (in the Windows arena) is to get
>>one originally designed for XP, assuming of course that you choose
>>to avoid VISTA.
>>Dennis Brunnenmeyer
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