Randall -

I have no interest in Carmen publishing other than being a satisfied

Early this year, we were using FrameMaker 7.1p116 (unstructured) on a
project to conform to US DOD MIL-STD 40051-2.  We ran into the same
problem and contacted Rick Quatro of Carmen Publishing.

He produced a FrameScript script for us:  SetWorkPackageNumbering.fsl.
Worked like a charm.

We're now working on a project to conform to US DOD MIL-HDBK 2361C (AB)
and MIL-STD 40051-2 and such.  I recommend you contact him and ask him
to adapt the above script to work with both unstructured and structured
files.  If he adapts it, we'd be interested in getting the updated

Rick's contact information follows.

Rick Quatro
rick at frameexpert.com

Also, I invite and encourage you to report the problem and request the
feature as I did through:


Good luck and regards,
Dave Stamm
Publications Specialist, Senior Staff
General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Randall C.
Sent: 2009-December-11-Friday 08:41
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Using Attributes on the Reference Page
Importance: High

FM Pilgrims:

We are trying to perfect some standard TOC and Index features in the
Reference pages and are having "issues" with things that apparently used
to work in 6.xx and don't appear to work anymore with Structured 7.2:
This is a MIL SPEC 40051-2 project, which requires a 4-digit work
package number element (<wpnum>) for each file, from 0001 to approx
0400+. The leading zeroes are crucial, as the spec requires four-digits
to appear on the page, page number, TOC, and Index.

Problem: We cannot get Frame 7.2 to recognize the coding to pick up the
attribute <leadingzero[wpnum]>, which sets the number of zeroes to 3 for
WPs 1 to 9, 2 for WPs 10 to 99, and the default 1 for WPs 100 and up. It
should work, but it does. We believe it worked on older versions of FM
that we used in the past, but it won't work now. (We suspect some
unannounced tinkering by Adobe that has had unintended consequences...)
Looks like we are forced to drop the whole attribute idea and just use
the system variable <$chapnum> to generate the work package number and
basically treat it like text so that it retains the leading zeroes,
which would normally be truncated by FM. But, that means essentially
hard-keying <wpnum> values into each file, which is a step backwards, in
my mind, from what FM should be able to do for us automatically.

1.      What changed between 6.xx and 7.2 to make attributes a no-go on
the Reference page?
2.      What is everyone else who does 40051-2 compliant mil spec pubs
doing for <wpnum> in each package? Is there another obvious approach I
am missing?
3.      Am I being completely addled or was there really a way to do
this in the "olden days"?


Randall C. Reed

Senior Technical Writer

Technical Publications

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