I'd certainly like to your PP presentation.

Obviously I'm starting (almost) from ground zero here.

Alison

-----Original Message-----
From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) 
[mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:38 PM
To: Combs, Richard; Alison Craig; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Patent Listing

I have a Powerpoint presentation on the topic of Intellectual Property (i.e., 
Trademarks and Patents - among other things) and can provide this to people.

BUT, I want to look through it first to sanitize it a bit (to remove some 
company-specific material) and also check with our patent lawyers to see if I 
can "freely" send it out. 

I guess I am trying to gauge the level of interest here first ... :)

Z

-----Original Message-----
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:22 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); Alison Craig; framers at 
lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Patent Listing

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:

> I *entirely* agree with the public use of trademark and logo 
> attributions - the specific method, design, figure, wording, etc., is 
> driven by the company who owns them. These are often described in
> *public* documents by those companies (see Oracle, Google and 
> Microsoft web sites for examples).
> 
> However, licensing a patent from a third-party and incorporating that 
> intellectual property in your own product is quite different.
> Documentation should not generally require specific attribution.
> Indeed, that business agreement may be one that needs to be relatively 
> confidential.
> 
> So, I would suggest that it is sufficient to say "... are protected by
> patents: XXX, XXX, XXX" that _includes_ the licensed patent and leave 
> it at that.
> 
> Most importantly, ask your *own* lawyers (internal or otherwise) for 
> the specific policy that they may already have ...

That's probably often the case. IIRC, when Sun owned Java, all we had to do is 
acknowledge the trademark. But then Oracle acquired Sun, and their policies are 
very different (in a number of ways). Since users of our software are also 
using the Java software we license from Oracle, our customers must be presented 
with and accept the Oracle license terms. 

Of course, that's software, so it's not really a patent issue, but a 
license-to-use issue -- I don't know what's being licensed in Alison's case, 
and the situation may be quite different. And it's Oracle -- 'nuff said. 

Bottom line: What you're legally obligated to do should be specified in the 
contract with the license owner. 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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