2013-04-26-05T13:45Z

Rick -

Yes; thanks for mentioning.  I failed to remember and to mention that when I 
try to update the book, FrameMaker hangs.  It's hanging as I write this.  I 
have to use Task Manager to end process and force FrameMaker out.

So, now, the problematic file becomes a likely suspect.

Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] 
Sent: 2013-04-26-Friday 09:35
To: Stamm, David-P45904; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

Hi Dave,

After you add the structured files to the book, you have to update the book, 
then the correct elements should show up in the structure view and element 
catalog. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you 
very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dave.Stamm at 
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Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Cannot create FrameMaker structured book

2013-04-26-05T13:25Z

Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1
Processor:  2.80?GHz
RAM:  4.00?GB
64-bit operating system
FrameMaker 11.0.1.382, stand-alone (AFAIK), installed on workstation .book and 
.fm files on server on LAN per corporate requirement

I seldom need to create a structured book, and I first encountered this problem 
at least four years ago using (probably version 7.2 or 8).  Only twice have I 
succeeded.  I am completely at a loss as to why my success rate is so low.

FrameMaker help for version 11, as best I can tell, does not even treat the 
subject of creating a structured _book_.  Neither does the application 
developers guide for 7.2.  These references include information about 
structured _files_?- but not structured _books_.  If found nothing in the 
FrameUsers archive and using FrameUsers search.

I reverted to consulting version 7 help.  I followed the instructions in it 
under "Creating structured book files" and under "Adding files to structured 
books."

The files in the book are structured.  They are associated with the correct 
structured application.  I have produced a .edd file from the applicable .dtd 
file.  I have imported element definitions from the .edd into the files and 
into the book file.  (One of the files is problematic in that when I try to 
import element definitions into it, FrameMaker crashes.  I "Mif washed"
that file to no good effect.  I do not believe that this problematic file is 
related to my inability to create a structured _book_.)

In the book window, the book is as I named it, as I fully expect.  In the book 
window, I choose the entry for the book, and I display the Structure View 
window.  In the Structure View window, the parent element is <NoName>, and all 
the entire book is indicated as not valid.

I cannot change the name of <NoName>, and I cannot get FrameMaker to recognize 
it as the parent element.  It seems as though I can "get to square two or 
three" but not further.

Help, please.

?Thanks!
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer
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