Pricing-wise, let's not forget the Adobe's "personalized experience" in the
form of a different list price for different countries:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-hYc_SEDqw
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-hYc_SEDqw&t=3m09s> &t=3m09s  



Shlomo



---------- Original message ----------
From: Shmuel Wolfson <shmue...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Paula Stern <paula at writepoint.com>


If the only option is subscription, the reason people will keep paying is to
keep their access to the software, instead of paying for upgrades due to
improvements. This reduces Adobe's incentive to add new features that they
normally would add in order to convince people to upgrade. The upside might
be that instead of working on new features they could focus on stability,
but the lack of incentive to improve sounds like it will hurt the user in
the long run.

In all fairness, if Adobe is insisting on a guaranteed income, they should
be willing to lower the price in order to get that guarantee. So the price
of the subscription should be lower than the price of constant upgrades. I'm
under the impression that the subscription is about the same price as
constant upgrades.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133



On 21-May-13 7:35 PM, Shlomo Perets wrote:


Just signed the petition and indicated the following as the reason for
signing:

"It is really a matter of letting users choose, rather than aggressively
force this or that option them.

Clearly, many Adobe users are still using older versions because many newer
versions/upgrades were mediocre, half-baked, not too promising and/or too
expensive. Instead of making an effort to produce inspiring/irresistible
upgrades, they want to force all to constantly pay for the same software."

[nothing original. I'm sure that these points and many other valid points
were already made in the different threads in so many forums]

Shlomo Perets

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---------- Original message ----------


At 14:54 -0700 20/5/13, Karen Robbins wrote:

Adam Engst's article in TidBITs, Creative Cloud Complaints Darken Adobe's
View of the Future, (<http://tidbits.com/e/13765>http://tidbits.com/e/13765)
makes/shares some excellent points. If the Creative Cloud experiment
succeeds, TCS/FrameMaker could be next.

I see from this article that there is a petition on Change.org to try to
persuade Adobe to abandon this sales model. Please go here if you feel
strongly about this issue:

<http://www.change.org/petitions/adobe-systems-incorporated-eliminate-the-ma
ndatory-creative-cloud-subscription-model>




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