And if I log in without using the URL it says I have no received files... happy days
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Registered office: 1 George Square, Glasgow, G2 1AL, United Kingdom Company No. SC101089 -----Original Message----- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 25 November 2013 18:00 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: framers Digest, Vol 97, Issue 24 Send framers mailing list submissions to framers at lists.frameusers.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to framers-request at lists.frameusers.com You can reach the person managing the list at framers-owner at lists.frameusers.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of framers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Is my beloved tool withering on the vine? (Matt Sullivan) 2. Re: Character Tag "As Is" setting--isn't (Matt Sullivan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 21:15:32 -0800 From: Matt Sullivan <[email protected]> To: Steve Rickaby <srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk> Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>, K Grace <kgrace4715 at aol.com> Subject: Re: Is my beloved tool withering on the vine? Message-ID: <F939BCF5-5F97-4695-B8D5-25E6A2C09310 at mattrsullivan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Standardization inevitably leads to structured authoring, DITA or another model. Structure improves content management, accessibility, localization, and consistency of content. Once you're doing structured authoring, you can use any structured authoring tool you like. Or use multiple tools, if you like?the files are now (presumably) .xml and can be edited by any xml editor. (Kinda like the HTML editor wars a few years ago) In my opinion, FrameMaker has the best mix of price, cost of implementation, cost of maintenance, and existing user base. Put that together with other apps in the TCS, and Adobe's continuing development of the product, and it's tough to make a case for an existing Fm user to switch to another product. FWIW, Flare isn't a structured authoring app, and I don't know enough about AuthorIt to weigh in on it. -Matt Matt R. Sullivan co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com @mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com On Nov 24, 2013, at 3:42 AM, Steve Rickaby <srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk> wrote: > At 10:10 +0000 22/11/13, Harro de Jong wrote: > >> If FrameMaker's reuse options no longer meet your needs, Author-it (and >> Flare presumably, although I've no experience with it) is a possible >> replacement. > > Or (surely?) moving to DITA with Frame? > > -- > Steve > _______________________________________________ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as matt at mattrsullivan.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. 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I know it could be better, but given that the Character Designer hasn't changed since, well, ever. As such, I'm betting it's not at the top of the To-Do list for the engineers. -Matt Matt R. Sullivan co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com @mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:53 AM, "Davis, David" <David.Davis at invensys.com> wrote: > Cheers Matt, > Yes I totally agree with your ?bottom line? ? > But surely this is a bug? The Character Designer dialog box (or ?pod? as they > seem to want to call it now) just simply isn?t behaving consistently and > doing what it says it does. > There is nothing I can see about this issue in the user docs > http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSB9594AD8-4282-4fbe-AE5A-3A3A4C9CC813.html > > David > > > From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:matt at mattrsullivan.com] > Sent: 20 November 2013 03:58 > > Bottom line: Never update a character tag with your cursor in the text flow. > Unless you like screwed up tags. > > > > > > *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached > files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is > addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally > privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its > status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete > this message from your system. 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