PostScript printers with resident fonts were standard in the Mac world but never caught on in the PC / Windows market.
Windows versions of FrameMaker 7 and earlier came with Adobe Type Manager and the standard set of files including ZapfDingbats. On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Fred Ridder <[email protected]> wrote: > But it says here that if you *know* a given font is going to be resident in > the printer you print the PDF from, you don't need to embed it in the PDF and > download it to the printer as part of the print job. Of course, what that > means for reading the PDF on-screen on a system that doesn't have the font at > all is anybody's guess... > > > -FR > > > ________________________________ > From: Framers <[email protected]> on > behalf of Craig Ede <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 3:58 PM > To: framers > Subject: Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats > > Since it is not built into the Adobe PDF printer, I'd say the reason for THAT > was licensing fees. > > > Craig > > > ________________________________ > From: Fred Ridder <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:45 AM > To: Craig Ede; framers > Subject: Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats > > > Many people would argue with the reason you give for the "Base 14" PostScript > fonts not being bundled with applications after a certain time. The official > reason given by most software publishers was that the PostScript outline and > metrics files were required to be built into all PostScript compatible > printers as printer-resident fonts. This was not done in the early days of > PostScript printers because the cost of non-volatile storage (e.g., EPROM) > was not trivial. Once the "real" font files were ubiquitously printer > resident, there was no need to distribute them in "soft" form with > applications since there was no need to download them to the printer with > each print job. Instead, it was only necessary to distribute simplified > versions of the fonts to provide on-screen display and the font metric > information needed on Windows systems for the printer driver to calculate > line lengths for text wrapping. Of course, the whole landscape changed with > the adoption of Unicode, but th at > 's another story. > > > BTW, the "14" in "Base 14" refers to four variants (normal, bold, italic, and > bold italic) of Times, Helvetica, and Courier plus the Symbol and Zapf > Dingbats fonts. > > > -FR > > > ________________________________ > From: Framers <[email protected]> on > behalf of Craig Ede <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:25 AM > To: framers > Subject: Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats > > Use unicode fonts; most modern fonts are unicode. A lot of glyphs are now > available in standard fonts that weren't in thefonts before. > > > Also, purchasing Zapf Dingbats can't be that expensive. I found a copy of the > Helvetica, Times and Zapf Dingbat fonts that Adobe no longer includes with > FrameMaker in an old copy of Illustrator or Pagemaker that I had. I ran the > installer and just chose to use those fonts. These fonts are likely to not > include glyphs in the more modern versions of the same fonts. > > > The reason those fonts are no longer included is that they are not Adobe > fonts and had to be licensed from somebody else. > > > Craig > > > ________________________________ > From: Framers <[email protected]> on > behalf of Theresa de Valence <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:16 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats > > I've opened a (very) old document which uses Zapf Dingbats which are not > on my current system. The document prints correctly from Frame 12, but > the screen display is gobbledygook. > > What do people use for these fonts nowadays? > > Thanks, > Theresa > -- > ======================= > Theresa de Valence > [email protected] > ======================= > _______________________________________________ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to [email protected] > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > FrameUsers.com - The Adobe FrameMaker Online Reference > Site<http://www.frameusers.com/> > www.frameusers.com > Adobe FrameMaker software is a template-based authoring and publishing > solution for unstructured, structured, and XML/DITA content. 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