Yes, I experienced the same issues.
I upgraded to FM 12, which fixed the problem.

Austin Cooper
Material & Process Engineering / EMRB
United Launch Alliance
Decatur, Alabama
256-432-1379

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 11:45:16 -0600
From: "Tammy Van Boening" <[email protected]>
To: "'Framers List'" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Framers] Weird Framemaker 10 behavior
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FM 10, Win7, 64-bit: all patched and current

I have many variables in the book that I am developing for a software client. I 
use the Keyboard shortcut of CTRL + 0 to access the variable list, and then 
keyboard shortcuts to scroll through the long list, for example, "PR" to scroll 
through the list of Product variables (Product 1, Product 2, and so on). Nine 
times outta' ten, this works beautifully and then blam. .
.for no reason, after using the keyboard shortcut of CTRL + 0, instead of 
getting an opened variable list, I get the message "Not Applicable," which 
means that I have to stop, go to Special > Variables, and then manually scroll 
the list. This is a real pain with such a big manual to create - I prefer to 
keep my hands on the keyboard and this shortcut function helps in that endeavor.

I haven't been able to tie this behavior to any action in the file - there 
aren't any issues scrolling/saving the file, the file hasn't crashed. .
.it's  just like FM loses its little mind and just decides it doesn't want to 
remember keyboard shortcuts.

Has anyone else experienced this behavior?   If so, did you ever figure out
how to make it stop?

TIA,

TVB



Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
TammyVB  *AT*  spectrumwritingllc  *DOT*  com




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 10:51:21 -0700
From: Robert Lauriston <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Weird Framemaker 10 behavior
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I saw similar behavior with various pods in FM9 and FM10. Haven't used more 
recent versions to know whether Adobe ever got around to fixing it.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Tammy Van Boening 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> FM 10, Win7, 64-bit: all patched and current
>
> I have many variables in the book that I am developing for a software
> client. I use the Keyboard shortcut of CTRL + 0 to access the variable
> list, and then keyboard shortcuts to scroll through the long list, for
> example, "PR" to scroll through the list of Product variables (Product
> 1, Product 2, and so on). Nine times outta' ten, this works beautifully and 
> then blam. .
> .for no reason, after using the keyboard shortcut of CTRL + 0, instead
> of getting an opened variable list, I get the message "Not
> Applicable," which means that I have to stop, go to Special >
> Variables, and then manually scroll the list. This is a real pain with
> such a big manual to create - I prefer to keep my hands on the
> keyboard and this shortcut function helps in that endeavor.
>
> I haven't been able to tie this behavior to any action in the file -
> there aren't any issues scrolling/saving the file, the file hasn't crashed. .
> .it's  just like FM loses its little mind and just decides it doesn't
> want to remember keyboard shortcuts.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this behavior?   If so, did you ever figure out
> how to make it stop?


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 18:24:11 +0000
From: "Stamm, David" <[email protected]>
To: Tammy Van Boening <[email protected]>, 'Framers List'
        <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Weird Framemaker 10 behavior
Message-ID:
        <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

2016-08-22-01T18:25Z

Tammy -

I've seen something rather similar in several versions of FrameMaker.? It still 
happens now with FrameMaker 2015 Release.? As you put it,?.?.?.?works 
beautifully and then blam?.?.?.?for no reason, after using the keyboard?.?.?.?" 
shortcuts to copy and paste, "?.?.?. "it's  just like FM loses its little mind 
and just decides it doesn't want to?.?.?.?" copy things and paste them.

There are other misbehaviors such as this, all of which appear for no apparent 
reason and, after some time of my putting up with them, the disappear.? I also 
do not know the cause, but I'm willing to believe (long after the fact) that 
the malfunctions started with FrameMaker 10.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

-----Original Message-----
From: Framers 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: 2016-08-22-Mon 13:46
To: 'Framers List'
Subject: [Framers] Weird Framemaker 10 behavior

FM 10, Win7, 64-bit: all patched and current

I have many variables in the book that I am developing for a software client. I 
use the Keyboard shortcut of CTRL + 0 to access the variable list, and then 
keyboard shortcuts to scroll through the long list, for example, "PR" to scroll 
through the list of Product variables (Product 1, Product 2, and so on). Nine 
times outta' ten, this works beautifully and then blam. .
.for no reason, after using the keyboard shortcut of CTRL + 0, instead of 
getting an opened variable list, I get the message "Not Applicable," which 
means that I have to stop, go to Special > Variables, and then manually scroll 
the list. This is a real pain with such a big manual to create - I prefer to 
keep my hands on the keyboard and this shortcut function helps in that endeavor.

I haven't been able to tie this behavior to any action in the file - there 
aren't any issues scrolling/saving the file, the file hasn't crashed. .
.it's  just like FM loses its little mind and just decides it doesn't want to 
remember keyboard shortcuts.

Has anyone else experienced this behavior?   If so, did you ever figure out
how to make it stop?

TIA,

TVB



Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
TammyVB  *AT*  spectrumwritingllc  *DOT*  com


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 11:48:14 -0700
From: Robert Lauriston <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Weird Framemaker 10 behavior
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Those problems started with the weird UI layer Adobe added in FM9.
Previous releases, I could "drive" the app from the keyboard, rarely or never 
using the mouse. From FM9 on, I found that impossible. It was also impossible 
to save the dialogs / pods in the positions and sizes that were most useful to 
me.

I reported a long list of issues and most of them were never fixed.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Stamm, David <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2016-08-22-01T18:25Z
>
> Tammy -
>
> I've seen something rather similar in several versions of FrameMaker.  It 
> still happens now with FrameMaker 2015 Release.  As you put it, . . . works 
> beautifully and then blam . . . for no reason, after using the keyboard . . . 
> " shortcuts to copy and paste, " . . . "it's  just like FM loses its little 
> mind and just decides it doesn't want to . . . " copy things and paste them.
>
> There are other misbehaviors such as this, all of which appear for no 
> apparent reason and, after some time of my putting up with them, the 
> disappear.  I also do not know the cause, but I'm willing to believe (long 
> after the fact) that the malfunctions started with FrameMaker 10.


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 12:50:12 -0600
From: "Tammy Van Boening" <[email protected]>
To: "'Stamm, David'" <[email protected]>,   "'Framers List'"
        <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Weird Framemaker 10 behavior
Message-ID: <007201d1fca6$0577e810$1067b830$@com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

Well, harumph. . . but that was what I kinda' thought. Thanks for the 
verification all.

Back to the grind.

TVB



Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
TammyVB  *AT*  spectrumwritingllc  *DOT*  com


-----Original Message-----
From: Stamm, David [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 12:24 PM
To: Tammy Van Boening; 'Framers List'
Subject: RE: [Framers] Weird Framemaker 10 behavior

2016-08-22-01T18:25Z

Tammy -

I've seen something rather similar in several versions of FrameMaker.? It still 
happens now with FrameMaker 2015 Release.? As you put it,?.?.?.?works 
beautifully and then blam?.?.?.?for no reason, after using the keyboard?.?.?.?" 
shortcuts to copy and paste, "?.?.?. "it's  just like FM loses its little mind 
and just decides it doesn't want to?.?.?.?" copy things and paste them.

There are other misbehaviors such as this, all of which appear for no apparent 
reason and, after some time of my putting up with them, the disappear.? I also 
do not know the cause, but I'm willing to believe (long after the fact) that 
the malfunctions started with FrameMaker 10.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

-----Original Message-----
From: Framers
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: 2016-08-22-Mon 13:46
To: 'Framers List'
Subject: [Framers] Weird Framemaker 10 behavior

FM 10, Win7, 64-bit: all patched and current

I have many variables in the book that I am developing for a software client. I 
use the Keyboard shortcut of CTRL + 0 to access the variable list, and then 
keyboard shortcuts to scroll through the long list, for example, "PR" to scroll 
through the list of Product variables (Product 1, Product 2, and so on). Nine 
times outta' ten, this works beautifully and then blam. .
.for no reason, after using the keyboard shortcut of CTRL + 0, instead of 
getting an opened variable list, I get the message "Not Applicable," which 
means that I have to stop, go to Special > Variables, and then manually scroll 
the list. This is a real pain with such a big manual to create - I prefer to 
keep my hands on the keyboard and this shortcut function helps in that endeavor.

I haven't been able to tie this behavior to any action in the file - there 
aren't any issues scrolling/saving the file, the file hasn't crashed. .
.it's  just like FM loses its little mind and just decides it doesn't want to 
remember keyboard shortcuts.

Has anyone else experienced this behavior?   If so, did you ever figure out
how to make it stop?

TIA,

TVB



Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
TammyVB  *AT*  spectrumwritingllc  *DOT*  com


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