FrameMaker only allows doing a save as to one previous version (R-1). Example: If using FM 14, the files can only be saved as to the FM 13 version.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 6:10 AM <framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com> wrote: > Send Framers mailing list submissions to framers@lists.frameusers.com > To subscribe or unsubscribe, visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com You > can reach the person managing the list at > framers-ow...@lists.frameusers.com When replying, please edit your > Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Framers > digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility (Marek, James) > 2. Table footnotes (Bragg, Judy - Xylem) > 3. Re: FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility (Rick Quatro) > 4. Re: Table footnotes (Lin Sims) > 5. File storage best practice (Doug) > 6. Re: File storage best practice (David Artman) > 7. Re: File storage best practice (Lin Sims) > 8. Re: File storage best practice (William Saylor) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 21:34:19 +0000 > From: "Marek, James" <jim.marek....@siemens.com> > To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility > Message-ID: > < > dcfbee40befeea4ba7de4b1b433616615abd6...@ustxca0em11msx.ww017.siemens.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > After 5 years of using Word, I get to use FrameMaker again! My colleagues > are using FM 11, but the IT folks just gave me a link and license for FM > 14. Can I save my work (FM 14) in .fm and .book files that my colleagues > can use (FM 11)? > > Regards, > Jim Marek > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 21:46:36 +0000 > From: "Bragg, Judy - Xylem" <j...@hypack.com> > To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: [Framers] Table footnotes > Message-ID: > < > 54c93e421ba640149d778f298bd48...@seemm1e15-06.world.fluidtechnology.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'm working in unstructured Tech. Comm. Suite 2015, and I have come across > a couple of problems with table footnotes. I hope someone out there has a > way around them. > > In FM, Table Footnote rolls to the next page: > I have one instance where "the stars have aligned" and the table happens > to end right at the bottom of the page, then the table footnotes appear at > the top of the next. I'd really prefer that at least 1 row of the table > roll to the next page so the footnotes aren't orphaned. > > I thought it might have to do with the fact that this table is in a text > inset, but if I go to the source document where the inset is and shorten > the text flow to beneath the table, the footnotes roll as orphans there too. > > The Table Footnote paragraph style is set to Keep With Previous. > Changing table body styles to Keep With the Next would cause other, more > frequent problems. > Other ideas? > > Links to Table Footnotes: > In FM, I have a table where 3 cells should reference the same footnote. > I inserted a footnote in the table at the first instance, then manually > made a superscript letter coinciding to that footnote in the other 2 cells > and hyperlinked them to the table footnote. > > It works in FM, but when I port over to RoboHelp for the CHM files, > instead of the manual hyperlinks in those 2 cells, the whole content of the > footnote appears after the cell body text! For the moment, I've just > removed the hyperlinks, but I'm curious why my method isn't working and if > there's another way. > > Judy Bragg > Technical Writer/QC > HYPACK - A Xylem Brand > 56 Bradley St. > Middletown, CT 06457 > O: +1.860.635.1500 > judy.br...@xyleminc.com<mailto:judy.br...@xyleminc.com> > www.hypack.com<http://www.hypack.com/> > [Email Logo] > [HYPACK 2019 Email Banner]<http://www.hypack2019.com/> > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, including any attachments and/or > linked documents, is intended for the sole use of the intended addressee > and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, proprietary, > or otherwise protected by law. Any unauthorized review, dissemination, > distribution, or copying is prohibited. If you have received this > communication in error, please contact the original sender immediately by > reply email and destroy all copies of the original message and any > attachments. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this > e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent > those of Xylem Inc. > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image001.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 6946 bytes > Desc: image001.jpg > URL: < > http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers-frameusers.com/attachments/20181128/cc804155/attachment.jpg > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image003.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 21888 bytes > Desc: image003.jpg > URL: < > http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers-frameusers.com/attachments/20181128/cc804155/attachment-0001.jpg > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 16:53:06 -0500 > From: "Rick Quatro" <r...@rickquatro.com> > To: "'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'" > <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility > Message-ID: <00c301d48764$bfc25390$3f46fab0$@rickquatro.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > You need my ConvertDocs script. It works great and is cheap! > > http://www.frameexpert.com/store/ > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing Inc. > r...@frameexpert.com > 585-729-6746 > > Save on energy at quatro.mystream.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Framers <framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro....@lists.frameusers.com> > On > Behalf Of Marek, James > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 4:34 PM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: [Framers] FM 11 / FM 14 compatibility > > After 5 years of using Word, I get to use FrameMaker again! My colleagues > are using FM 11, but the IT folks just gave me a link and license for FM > 14. > Can I save my work (FM 14) in .fm and .book files that my colleagues can > use > (FM 11)? > > Regards, > Jim Marek > _______________________________________________ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at > http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 08:13:49 -0500 > From: Lin Sims <ljsims...@gmail.com> > To: Frame Users <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Table footnotes > Message-ID: > <CA+MomCiH= > g7oq9r9vk0oero64_jqgwjgmkwuzxxngccwvbs...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > You could try increasing the row height slightly for that table so that a > row or two rolls to the next page. I don't think using the Keep with Next > will do what you're looking for, anyway, since it affects the table rows, > not the footnotes. > > Truthfully, I've never been entirely happy with how Frame handles > footnotes, particularly ones for tables. It's one of the few times where I > think Word handles it better, which means it's one of the few things Word > does that I agree with. ;-) > > I don't port to any Help formats, so I've no idea why it's pulling the text > of the footnote. Generally speaking, though, if you want to have multiple > references to the same footnote, best practise is to use the > cross-reference function, not manually typing and adding a hyperlink. This > has the added benefit that if your footnote numbering changes, the xref > automatically updates on your next regen of the book file. > > > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 8:25 PM Bragg, Judy - Xylem <j...@hypack.com> > wrote: > > > I'm working in unstructured Tech. Comm. Suite 2015, and I have come > across > > a couple of problems with table footnotes. I hope someone out there has a > > way around them. > > > > In FM, Table Footnote rolls to the next page: > > I have one instance where "the stars have aligned" and the table happens > > to end right at the bottom of the page, then the table footnotes appear > at > > the top of the next. I'd really prefer that at least 1 row of the table > > roll to the next page so the footnotes aren't orphaned. > > > > I thought it might have to do with the fact that this table is in a text > > inset, but if I go to the source document where the inset is and shorten > > the text flow to beneath the table, the footnotes roll as orphans there > too. > > > > The Table Footnote paragraph style is set to Keep With Previous. > > Changing table body styles to Keep With the Next would cause other, more > > frequent problems. > > Other ideas? > > > > Links to Table Footnotes: > > In FM, I have a table where 3 cells should reference the same footnote. > > I inserted a footnote in the table at the first instance, then manually > > made a superscript letter coinciding to that footnote in the other 2 > cells > > and hyperlinked them to the table footnote. > > > > It works in FM, but when I port over to RoboHelp for the CHM files, > > instead of the manual hyperlinks in those 2 cells, the whole content of > the > > footnote appears after the cell body text! For the moment, I've just > > removed the hyperlinks, but I'm curious why my method isn't working and > if > > there's another way. > > > > Judy Bragg > > Technical Writer/QC > > HYPACK - A Xylem Brand > > 56 Bradley St. > > Middletown, CT 06457 > > O: +1.860.635.1500 > > judy.br...@xyleminc.com<mailto:judy.br...@xyleminc.com> > > www.hypack.com<http://www.hypack.com/> > > [Email Logo] > > [HYPACK 2019 Email Banner]<http://www.hypack2019.com/> > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, including any attachments and/or > > linked documents, is intended for the sole use of the intended addressee > > and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, > proprietary, > > or otherwise protected by law. Any unauthorized review, dissemination, > > distribution, or copying is prohibited. If you have received this > > communication in error, please contact the original sender immediately by > > reply email and destroy all copies of the original message and any > > attachments. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this > > e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent > > those of Xylem Inc. > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: image001.jpg > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 6946 bytes > > Desc: image001.jpg > > URL: < > > > http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers-frameusers.com/attachments/20181128/cc804155/attachment.jpg > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: image003.jpg > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 21888 bytes > > Desc: image003.jpg > > URL: < > > > http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers-frameusers.com/attachments/20181128/cc804155/attachment-0001.jpg > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 13:25:51 -0500 > From: Doug <dbailey4...@gmail.com> > To: Framers <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: [Framers] File storage best practice > Message-ID: > < > canlqyk00kvwpc1can6v_+accoen657uk8vw06z1-91jkkvd...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I'm facing the challenge of organizing the file structure of dozens of > documents and their respective imported graphics. What's are the best > practices in this regard? I'm inclined to maintain an Images folder with > separate sub-folders for each document's graphics, and another sub-folder > for graphics that are common to multiple documents. > > Where I worked before we stored images in a sub-folder below the document's > FM folder, but I'm leaning away from that approach since it complicates > things when you are scanning images outside of Frame. And other reasons, > of course. > > Thanks, > > Doug > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 14:57:42 -0500 > From: David Artman <da...@davidartman.com> > To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." > <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: [Framers] File storage best practice > Message-ID: <a9d6c981-8111-41e8-b3b1-cbab3fcdd...@email.android.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > All in one folder, period. Modern OSs have great search, sort, and > filter controls in their file managers; and it makes packaging for > version archiving simple. > My 2? > David > [DCA:d.a.d.] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 15:18:26 -0500 > From: Lin Sims <ljsims...@gmail.com> > To: Frame Users <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: [Framers] File storage best practice > Message-ID: > < > ca+momcjybrueyvncke6jfuylouwautwziomxqhb00rkgmsu...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > At my former job, we assigned all graphics a number and everything got > dumped in a single folder. A spreadsheet kept track of the name of the > graphic, which was usually just the caption. Finding a graphic was very > easy if we had the number, and only a little less easy if we had a keyword > or two we could home in on. > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 2:57 PM David Artman <da...@davidartman.com> > wrote: > > > All in one folder, period. Modern OSs have great search, sort, and > > filter controls in their file managers; and it makes packaging for > > version archiving simple. > > My 2? > > David > > [DCA:d.a.d.] > > _______________________________________________ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > -- > Lin Sims > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 13:38:29 -0700 > From: "William Saylor" <wsay...@earthlink.net> > To: "'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'" > <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: [Framers] File storage best practice > Message-ID: <078301d48823$7ce25e70$76a71b50$@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have to concur with the suggestions to keep everything associated with a > project / book in one folder - even though it seemed counterintuitive to > organizing by subfolder. I have a 12 chapter textbook with 150 figures and > tried segregating the graphics into a separate subfolder and ensuring the > linking path was correct. But, having to move across systems - and > generating FM pdf book output as well as WebWorks for epub and HTML5 book > output - convinced me that one folder works best. But, without an SVN type > repository I did have to move older chapters to a separate folder (if I > needed to save versions) and could keep the master folder with everything > being used in the project. > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Framers <framers-bounces+wsaylor=earthlink....@lists.frameusers.com> > On Behalf Of Lin Sims > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 1:18 PM > To: Frame Users <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: [Framers] File storage best practice > > At my former job, we assigned all graphics a number and everything got > dumped in a single folder. A spreadsheet kept track of the name of the > graphic, which was usually just the caption. Finding a graphic was very > easy if we had the number, and only a little less easy if we had a keyword > or two we could home in on. > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 2:57 PM David Artman <da...@davidartman.com> > wrote: > > > All in one folder, period. Modern OSs have great search, sort, and > > filter controls in their file managers; and it makes packaging for > > version archiving simple. > > My 2? > > David > > [DCA:d.a.d.] > > _______________________________________________ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > -- > Lin Sims > _______________________________________________ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage > at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > > This daily digest is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > ------------------------------ > > End of Framers Digest, Vol 152, Issue 12 > **************************************** > -- http://praks80.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com