I concur w/Scott, that XML whitespace handling is trickier than one
might expect, and that the FrameMaker behavior is as expected for an
XML-processing application.
There's also a maker.ini setting that may achieve what you wish.
RemoveExtraWhiteSpacesOnXMLImport=FALSE.
However, this global setting may trigger unexpected whitespace handling
for other elements.
In XSLT workflows, there's also <xsl:preserve-space /> and
<xsl:strip-space /> to modify default whitespace handling, settable on a
per-element basis.
HTH!
-Alan
On 12/11/18 11:40 AM, Scott Prentice wrote:
This is a tricky subject, and one that's been debated for years (not
just related to FM). This particular situation isn't a bug (and
DITA-FMx would handle it the same way) .. according to the XML
specification[1], it's valid for XML processors to strip leading and
trailing whitespace from text nodes. If you want the whitespace to be
preserved you need to identify that element as a "preserve space"
element (xml:space="preserve").
Yes .. in general, if you want the whitespace to have a chance of
surviving, don't put it at the beginning or end of the element.
[1]
https://www.w3.org/2008/xmlsec/Drafts/xml-norm/Overview.html#sec-Requirements-Robustness
Cheers,
...scott
On 12/11/18 8:17 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:
I have just tested this in FrameMaker 2017 (with DITA-FMx) and in 2019
(without DITA-FMx):
1. Open the topic as you posted it (in Frame 2017 and 2019).
Result: the space after <i>Safe life </i> is gone, so no space
between
the words "life" and "design" anymore.
2. Remove the space after the word "life" and type a space right
after
the italics end tag </i>, so just before the word "design". Then
save,
close and reopen the file.
Result: Surprise! The space is still there.
I think it's a better practice in general to type the space outside the
inline element.
Kind regards
Yves
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 16:59, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> wrote:
Thank you Yves. I am taking care of this now in my XSLT, but I may
fix it
in
the source.
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Space being removed in structured output
Hi Rick
That's the old "whitespace normalization" bug. Sometimes, FrameMaker
has a
problem with inline elements, such as <i>. By the way, you should use a
"more semantically appropriate element" as per the DITA spec, but I
digress.
This has been discussed years ago in this user group, so you may
want to
seach for "whitespace" in the archives. Scott's DITA-FMx plugin
seems to do
a better job with whitespace normalization.
Cheers
Yves Barbion
www.flowtime.be
On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 16:39, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> wrote:
If the space is after the </i> tag instead of inside of it, it works
as it should. That is a dumb "feature" if you ask me.
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Subject: [Framers] Space being removed in structured output
Hi All, I am generating dita programatically:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE concept
PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DITA 1.3 Concept//EN"
"technicalContent/dtd/concept.dtd">
<concept id="i729608">
<title xtrf="Heading2">Safe Life</title>
<conbody>
<p xtrf="Para">
<i>Safe life </i>design provides reserves
in all aspects of the structure by factoring all calculations.</p>
</conbody>
</concept>
When I open this concept in FrameMaker, the space after "Safe life" in
the <p> element is being removed. Is there a setting in structured
FrameMaker that I am missing? I am using FM 2019 with the standard
DITA
applications.
Thank you very much.
Rick
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
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