I just found an old post in the forums from Peter Gold that confirms my initial suspicion: "TOCs are expected to be generated from a single text flow." https://forums.adobe.com/thread/959453
So if you're using two text flows and want separate TOCs, one for each, I think you'll have to use my original suggestion of separate tags, one for each flow, retagging your headings (even in 500 pages, that shouldn't be more than a half-hour or an hour using Find & Replace using the Copy Special > Paragraph Tag and replacing by pasting--you're only retagging the information you want in the TOC, not every single paragraph), and then creating the TOCs individually and using text inset to create a combined TOC. On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 3:58 PM Lin Sims <[email protected]> wrote: > Add it as a feature request? I suspect, though, that the only way you can > get a TOC that is in two flows separated by language at the moment is to > use my original suggestion. > > I could post the question to the Adobe FrameMaker forum if you want. Lots > of people there who know Frame much better than I do. > > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 3:02 AM Yves Barbion <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> Creating separate paragraph tags for French and Dutch is not really an >> option, because we'd have to retag the whole text (500 + pages). Richard >> Mitchell suggested to use conditional text for the French and Dutch text. >> I >> haven't tried this, but that might work. >> >> Anyway, Adobe should add this feature: simply allow the user to create a >> ToC with multiple text flows, in which the generated ToC appears in the >> corresponding text flows, so the headings from flow A in appears in flow A >> in the ToC, headings from flow B in flow B etc. >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Yves >> >> On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 17:47, Lin Sims <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Hey Craig, >> > >> > Assuming I understood this correctly, I don't think this is possible. As >> > far as I know, you can only have one TOC reference page, and there's no >> way >> > to specify which text flow it goes into. Be interesting to find out if >> I'm >> > wrong on that, though, as I can see it being useful. >> > >> > Yves, let us know what you try out and how it works, would you please? >> > >> > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 3:36 PM Craig Ede <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > Yves, >> > > >> > > I was thinking of something similar to what Lin describes, but I don't >> > > have time to check it and didn't want to lead you down a wrong path. >> > > However, once you create the TOC file as an autogenerated file, it >> might >> > be >> > > possible to create the two text flows in that file, one for each >> > language. >> > > The page flows and formatting tags on the reference page for the TOC >> > would >> > > have to be divided as well with the correct tags to use for >> formatting on >> > > the appropriate side. All the flow names have to be named the same for >> > each >> > > of the 'views' (that is, on both the TOC reference and master pages). >> I >> > > don't know for sure, but it just might work, and that would let you >> just >> > > generate the file, no muss, no fuss. >> > > >> > > Good luck. >> > > >> > > Craig >> > > >> > > ________________________________ >> > > From: Framers <framers-bounces+craigede= >> [email protected] >> > > >> > > on behalf of Lin Sims <[email protected]> >> > > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 12:14 PM >> > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. >> > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Create a separate ToC for each text flow? >> > > >> > > Could you use two different paragraph tags for each heading level, one >> > for >> > > Dutch and one for French? Perhaps distinguished by -D and -Fr. Then >> you >> > > could generate separate TOCs easily enough from the same file, but off >> > the >> > > top of my head I can't figure out how to combine the two different >> TOCs >> > > into the same generated file. >> > > >> > > Oh! Could you create a second file that has two separate text frames >> as >> > > parallel columns, then use insets to have the French TOC in one column >> > and >> > > the Dutch in the other? Then all you'd have to do is exclude the >> > generated >> > > files from the doc when creating your output ... >> > > >> > > (NB: I have not tested this. No idea if it would work. But it sounds >> > > possible.) >> > > >> > > On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 8:14 AM Yves Barbion <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hi Framers >> > > > >> > > > I've got this nice challenge: >> > > > >> > > > I've got a big FrameMaker book in which each chapter has 2 separate >> > text >> > > > flows: one for Dutch text and one for French. The Dutch and French >> text >> > > > appears side by side on each page. >> > > > >> > > > I want to create a table of contents which has the same: a Dutch >> text >> > > flow >> > > > on the left and a French text flow on the right. >> > > > >> > > > I don't see a "standard" way of doing this in Fm. When I generate a >> > ToC, >> > > I >> > > > get the Dutch and French text mixed together in a single flow: >> > > > >> > > > Dutch heading.... page 1 >> > > > French heading.... page 1 >> > > > Dutch heading.... page 2 >> > > > French heading.... page 2 >> > > > >> > > > etc. >> > > > >> > > > My current workaround is kinda complicated: >> > > > >> > > > 1. Create 3 versions of the book, one bilingual (master) >> version, a >> > > > French version and a Dutch version. >> > > > 2. Remove all French text from the Dutch book and vice versa. >> > > > 3. Generate a ToC in the French version. >> > > > 4. Generate a ToC in the Dutch version. >> > > > 5. In the bilingual version, import the Dutch ToC in the Dutch >> text >> > > flow >> > > > of the "fake ToC" and import the French ToC in the French text >> flow. >> > > > >> > > > It works, but it's too complicated and will take too much time when >> > > updates >> > > > occur. >> > > > >> > > > Any better ideas? Can an ExtendScript do this? >> > > > >> > > > Thanks >> > > > >> > > > Yves Barbion >> > > > www.flowtime.be<http://www.flowtime.be> >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > >> > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list >> > > > >> > > > Send messages to [email protected] >> > > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com >> > > > Archives located at >> > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ >> > > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at >> > > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com >> > > > Send administrative questions to [email protected] >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Lin Sims >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > >> > > This message is from the Framers mailing list >> > > >> > > Send messages to [email protected] >> > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com >> > > Archives located at >> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ >> > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at >> > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com >> > > Send administrative questions to [email protected] >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > >> > > This message is from the Framers mailing list >> > > >> > > Send messages to [email protected] >> > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com >> > > Archives located at >> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ >> > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at >> > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com >> > > Send administrative questions to [email protected] >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Lin Sims >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > This message is from the Framers mailing list >> > >> > Send messages to [email protected] >> > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com >> > Archives located at >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ >> > Subscribe and unsubscribe at >> > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com >> > Send administrative questions to [email protected] >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> >> This message is from the Framers mailing list >> >> Send messages to [email protected] >> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com >> Archives located at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ >> Subscribe and unsubscribe at >> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com >> Send administrative questions to [email protected] >> > > > -- > Lin Sims > -- Lin Sims _______________________________________________ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to [email protected] Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to [email protected]
