If you prepare a title text with some nonbreaking spaces (that do not bother in the place where the title is) according to your idea how this should look like in the TOC, the text then will always keep together in the TOC when regenerated.
This may help, or at least may help for most of the lines in the TOC.

Of course, this is not such a good idea if the text has to be translated to other languages where the line breaks have to be set differently.

Best regards --- Tino H. Haida, Berlin

[email protected]:

OK, Rick's script saved my bacon yet again, and while I am on a roll, I am gonna' get greedy and ask if someone can refresh the fuzzy recesses of my aging mind.

Right now, when I have lines that don't wrap correctly in my TOC (based on the length of the text for a tag), I am going through and manually adding the needed breaks, but of course, this is tedious work and I loathe doing it every time I produce a final book because either I forget to do it or I miss a line or two.

Wasn't there a script "out there somewhere?" that magically did this for you?

If anyone remembers this script and can point me in the right direction (other than off a cliff which is what I feel like doing right now), I would most appreciate it.

TIA,

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com [1]

-----Original Message-----
From: Framers <framers-
[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:47 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue

Great news! Thanks to Rick!

This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA bug, that
needs formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do
contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem
to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago
and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented)
punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the ToC).

Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of
the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was
taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the
character didn't begin the link, all was OK.

Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will
solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user
(especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about this little gem anyway.
Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post
to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn
so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can
come only from tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience.

Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com [1]

-----Original Message-----
From: Framers <framers-
[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue

Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem paragraphs, to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, try
deleting or; hiding the bad ones one with a condition.

Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit.
Have you tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book materials,
then regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide
it, to ignore the placeholder, and regen.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com <
[email protected]> wrote:

😀😀

What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . .
And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port
in a storm. . .

Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my
rescue in these frustrating situations, so I'm waiting to hear
back from him, and learn what the obvious problem it is. . .

Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point
I'm so
frustrated) but not to me!

Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.

On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Lise Bible
<[email protected]>
 wrote:

Tammy,
I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried
everything I
would

have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation),
but as a workaround, can you manually create these links in
Acrobat after the
fact? To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch...

Good luck!
-Lise

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com
< [email protected]> wrote:

Hi Craig,

No there is no difference in the character formatting between
these five entries and any of the other same type of entries in the
 TOC.

All the EquationCaption  paragraph tags are formatted
identically
 without

any overrides or additional character settings.

But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely
welcome them.

Thank you!

Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.

On Dec 17, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Craig Ede <[email protected]>
 wrote:

Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of
these 5 lines being used for the TOC?
Craig Ed

________________________________
From: Framers <framers-bounces+craigede=
 [email protected]>

on behalf of [email protected] <
[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM
To: [email protected]
<[email protected]>
Subject: [Framers] TOC issue

OK,

Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing
to solve this issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss. I have a book for
which I am generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary
paragraph tags for the TOC and generated. All the entries in the TOC are functioning as hyperlinks as they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. They are deader than a door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five entries
is an active hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is
also an
 active

hyperlink.

I have done the following:

1.      Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it.
2.      Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags -
 the

text is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing
for
 them.)

3.      Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the
 book

to check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text
that was causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions
turned on, I still
 have

the issue.
4.      Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly
 above

and directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and regenerated and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these 5
remain stubbornly dead.
5.      All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that
 maybe

there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant
graphics and regenerated and again, the links are still dead.

I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small
section in an otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so
there's nothing common
 about

this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book
as no
 other

sections are giving me this problem.

I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc.

Regards,

TVB

Tammy Van Boening

Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
 www.spectrumwritingllc.com [1]<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com>

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