It doesn’t help things when the subscription price of FM goes up by 30% .. and 
TCS up 40%!  I did hear that Flare jumped 50% though, so apparently it’s a 
trend? Sounds to me like they are getting a bit desperate, no?

...scott

Sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos or unexpected brevity. 

> On Jan 12, 2023, at 2:04 PM, Keith Soltys <ke...@soltys.ca> wrote:
> 
> I think you are right, Tammy. FrameMaker is an old-school product and Adobe 
> doesn't seem to be doing much to promote or improve it. I watched the webinar 
> for the new release a few months ago and I was distinctly underwhelmed. 
> That's not going to bring new users to the list.
> 
> In my own case, I was laid off (with some rejoicing) in late 2018. I thought 
> I might try to land some short-term work, but then various life events and 
> the pandemic hit, and I now consider myself retired. I am not sure why I'm 
> still subscribed here since I don't have a personal copy of Frame but I do 
> occasionally look in to see what's going. I should look at my archived 
> material from work to see if I could repurpose any of it into a blog post, 
> but the last version of Frame I used was FrameMaker 2010, there's probably 
> not much point.
> 
> It was fun while it lasted though.
> 
> Regards
> Keith
> 
>> On 1/12/2023 11:47 AM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:
>> I don't think it's a List issue. It's just that the vast majority of users 
>> on the list are getting long in the tooth (if they haven't already retired), 
>> so list traffic has dropped exponentially. Makes me feel a tad lonely and 
>> sad after being an active member for almost 25 years!! The names that still 
>> ring in my head that were once so very active on the list . . .
>> 
>> I do know that if you post a question, there's a stalwart group of us left 
>> (Alison, Mike,  Peter Gold, Fred Ridder, Lin Sims, me, Rick and several 
>> others) who will always answer.
>> 
>> I do agree with Craig - us few survivors are darn near experts at this point 
>> (save the one or two Whiskey/Tango/Foxtrot  moments that Frame can still 
>> provide) and the position of FrameMaker in the marketplace probably doesn't 
>> support its fervent use any more. I am just glad that I will be fully 
>> retired before I witness it's death.
>> 
>> Here's to a happy and healthy 2023 for all of us.
>> 
>> Tammy Van Boening
>> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
>> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>> 
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