hi all,

On Dec 22, 2007, at 12:37 AM, Andreas Zeidler wrote:
ps: i still got 4 votes to cast, but have to go offline, since i'm occupying a room in which people want to go to sleep now... sorry about that — i'll post my votes and do the bookkeeping in the morning.


here's a first summary of all votes cast so far by the framework team on selection particular plips for inclusion into plone 3.1:

* submitted plips (see http://plone.org/products/plone/releases/3.1) : 26
    * votes expected:  5 x 26 = 130
* submitted votes: 98 of 130 = 75.4% (only counting votes cast on the plip pages)

as it looks danny has only casted a few votes through the mailing list, but not updated the corresponding plip pages yet. also, they're far from complete, afaik. so danny, could you please asap either go through the list of plips and add your votes or alternatively post a list of all your votes here?

not counting danny's votes we're at 94.2% with 6 missing votes. for your convenience, these are:

    * Tom on #187, #195, #218, #219, #221
    * Rapahel on #187

please also try to cast those asap. that said, how long do we want to wait for those missing votes and do we have a plan on how to proceed if they don't arrive? i'd suggest waiting until midnight tonight at most, i.e. one day, and then accept/reject plips by majority vote. thoughts?

for the time being i think it should be pretty safe for plip authors to judge if their plips will be accepted for 3.1 from the current standings — at least for the big majority of plips. these are:

    #184:  +4 (4 votes)
    #187:  +0 (2 votes)
    #195:  +3 (3 votes)
    #196:  +4 (4 votes)
    #199:  -4 (4 votes)
    #200:  +4 (4 votes)
    #201:  +3 (4 votes incl 1 abstained)
    #202:  +4 (4 votes)
    #203:  +4 (4 votes)
    #204:  +4 (4 votes)
    #205:  +4 (4 votes)
    #207:  +4 (4 votes)
    #208:  +4 (4 votes)
    #209:  +4 (4 votes)
    #210:  +4 (4 votes)
    #211:  +4 (4 votes)
    #212:  +3 (4 votes incl 1 abstained)
    #213:  +4 (4 votes)
    #214:  -4 (4 votes)
    #215:  +4 (4 votes)
    #216:  +4 (4 votes)
    #217:  +4 (4 votes)
    #218:  +3 (3 votes)
    #219:  -1 (3 votes)
    #220:  +4 (4 votes)
    #221:  +0 (3 votes)

attached you'll find a compilation of all votes for reference.

cheers,


andi


#184: Include more/improved portlets
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 13, 2007 - 22:10
  +1, with the qualifier that I'd like the PLIP to be locked down to the
  3 portlets listed there now, and that, as Martin noted, the static
  portlet will use the kupu formlib widget from PLIP 200.
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 13, 2007 - 23:03
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001484.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 14, 2007 - 21:28
  +1 seconding martijn's limit to the three portlets and #220
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 20, 2007 - 08:07
  +1 under the restrictions pointed out above.

#187: Working Out-of-the-box WebDAV
  **** Framework vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 21, 2007 - 22:47
  +1 (low hanging fruit as the work is already done)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 22, 2007 - 10:01
  -1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001623.html)

#195: Support product dependencies
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 13, 2007 - 22:19
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 13, 2007 - 23:45
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-November/001406.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 13:29
  +1

#196: GroupUserFolder removing
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 13, 2007 - 23:19
  +1 on cleaning up and fixing broken links, but -1 on replacing existing tools 
(see http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001507.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:01
  I second this.
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 20, 2007 - 08:15
  +1 on cleaning up the UI and making it use the proper API but -1 on tool 
removal/change. I would consider that OK for Plone 4.0 but not for 3.1.
  Introducing deprecation warnings, however, could be considered OK.
  
  BTW: I'm somewhat confused here myself because as pointed out in the PLIP the 
GroupUserFolder isn't usable since a while anyway but I simply don't know 
whether it could be considered safe for removal is I cannot judge whether 
anything still might bepend on it (most notably 3rd-party add-ons which we have 
promised not to break in this release).
  **** Framework vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 21, 2007 - 17:04
  Another +1 on the UI cleanups and -1 on the risky tool removals.

#199: Integration of ARFilePreview in Plone core (preview of office and other 
binary files)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:20
  -1 this seems like a lot of code for a feature that not everybody will be 
using. it's a great plip, but i'm against including this feature into plone 
core.
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 20, 2007 - 13:42
  -1 like Tom I don't see the need for this in the core. This is a perfect fit 
for an add-on IMHO.
  **** Framework vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 21, 2007 - 17:21
  -1 from me as well, it'd be a great add-on but it feels to 'heavy' in the way 
of storing the preview results in the ZODB (blobs or otherwise). This is 
something an integrator may add to a plone site if the customer requests it, 
not something that should be part of the default
  package.
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 22, 2007 - 10:02
  -1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001624.html)

#200: Kupu formlib widget
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 13, 2007 - 22:10
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 13, 2007 - 23:00
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001484.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 13:23
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:02
  +1

#201: Improve the UberSelectionWidget UI
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 13, 2007 - 22:13
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 13, 2007 - 23:01
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001484.html)
  **** ah well... ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 13, 2007 - 23:14
  i suppose i should really make this an "abstained", since i've already 
contributed somewhat here...
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:03
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 20, 2007 - 13:43
  +1

#202: Support inline validation and editing for formlib forms
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 13, 2007 - 22:17
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 13, 2007 - 23:01
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001484.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 13:25
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:04
  +1

#203: Manage portlet assignments with GenericSetup
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 13, 2007 - 22:16
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 13, 2007 - 23:01
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001484.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 13:26
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:05
  +1

#204: Manage content rules using GenericSetup
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 13, 2007 - 22:16
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 13, 2007 - 23:01
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001484.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 13:27
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:06
  +1

#205: Flexibility Associating Portlet Types and Portlet Managers
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 14, 2007 - 14:00
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 14, 2007 - 14:30
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001540.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 12:41
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:07
  +1

#207: Allow Custom Portlet Managers
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 14, 2007 - 14:00
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 14, 2007 - 14:30
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001540.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 13:22
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:08
  +1

#208: Adapter-Based Local Role Lookup
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 14, 2007 - 16:45
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001547.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 14, 2007 - 17:07
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 12:36
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:22
  +1 yes, please!

#209: Add buildout to Unified Installer
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 13, 2007 - 22:31
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 14, 2007 - 01:03
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001520.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 12:20
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:16
  +1

#210: Improve UI support for objects on multiple workflows
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 13, 2007 - 23:06
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001496.html and 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001515.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 13:31
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:22
  +1
  **** Framework vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 21, 2007 - 17:09
  +1

#211: Enable dashboard to be locked down
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 13, 2007 - 23:07
  tentative +1 with respect to the migration and security issues mentioned in 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001497.html
  **** +1 ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 14, 2007 - 21:21
  seconding andi's comments
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 13:20
  same here (see above)
  **** Framework vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 21, 2007 - 17:12
  +1 with same comments.

#212: Use jQuery Javascript Library
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 13, 2007 - 22:25
  Abstained
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 13, 2007 - 23:11
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001499.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:14
  +1 (!)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 20, 2007 - 13:50
  +1 (I'm no expert here by no means but I'm confident Martijn and Florian know 
that they are doing here. AFAICT this is also handled in close collaboration 
with the KSS crowd so that's good)

#213: Prepare for better Syndication
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 13, 2007 - 22:41
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 13, 2007 - 23:12
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001498.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 13:18
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:23
  +1

#214: Merge of CMFPlacefulWorkflow into CMFPlone/WorkflowTool
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 13, 2007 - 23:17
  tentative -1 awaiting further information (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001508.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:17
  -1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 20, 2007 - 13:52
  -1 given the current state of discussion. Might be good for consideration in 
4.0 though.
  **** Framework vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 21, 2007 - 17:08
  -1 due to Alec's better alternative

#215: Include new KSS versions
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 14, 2007 - 11:32
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001528.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 14, 2007 - 12:37
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:13
  +1 and pointing out that jQuery now uses CSS selectors throughout, so in the 
light of #212 i would urge to use jQuery here, as well instead of base2.
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 20, 2007 - 13:54
  +1 (and reinforcing Tom's comment)

#216: Template overrides
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 14, 2007 - 15:56
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001544.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 13:16
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:11
  +1 under provision of using z3c.jbot as inspiration and putting the actual 
code into plone core, as discussed on the list. great plip, btw!
  **** Framework vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 21, 2007 - 17:13
  +1

#217: Use Adaptation for Workflow Assignment
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 14, 2007 - 16:45
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001547.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 14, 2007 - 17:08
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 12:30
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 20, 2007 - 13:26
  +1

#218: Increase Restrictions, and Ability to Change, Addable Portlet Types by 
Interface
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 12:39
  +1
  **** Framework vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 21, 2007 - 17:15
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 21, 2007 - 23:53
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001617.html)

#219: New site search implementation
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 21, 2007 - 16:27
  -1 because of the risk of breaking customizations as discussed on the 
framework team list
  **** Framework vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 21, 2007 - 17:14
  -1 because we can't make this optional.
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 22, 2007 - 09:57
  +1 provided the new result listing can be made optional (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001622.html)

#220: Improve browser layer support
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 14, 2007 - 21:27
  +1
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Tom Lazar at December 14, 2007 - 21:29
  +1 (!)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 14, 2007 - 22:26
  +1 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001564.html)
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 08:50
  +1 from Raphael

#221: Use adaption for workflow history and status
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Raphael Ritz at December 17, 2007 - 12:45
  +1 (I don't mind the delay in this case as I consider it an enhancement of 
Alec's PLIP #217 which I'm also in favor of rather then something new)
  **** Framework vote ****
  Posted by Martijn Pieters at December 21, 2007 - 22:51
  -1 as I prefer this going straight into CMF; there is no pressing need to do 
this now.
  **** Framework team vote ****
  Posted by Andreas Zeidler at December 22, 2007 - 10:00
  ±0 (see 
http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/2007-December/001625.html)




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