Right, I don't see a reason to do that, though — it doesn't buy us anything.

The reason the HTML5 doctype is simply:

<!DOCTYPE html>

…is that it's the shortest possible string that will trigger
strict/standards parsing (ie. not quirks mode) in all browsers, including
IE6.


On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Laurence Rowe <l...@lrowe.co.uk> wrote:

> It is listed as an "obsolete permitted doctype string"
>
> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#obsolete-permitted-doctype-string
> - i.e. we can lie about the doctype. I'm not sure why xhtml 1.0
> transitional is not allowed.
>
> Laurence
>
> On 16 March 2010 22:18, Alexander Limi <l...@plone.org> wrote:
> > The way it works is that you can use the XHTML "spelling" (ie. closing
> your
> > tags), but you serve it up as normal HTML.
> >
> >
> http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#Should_I_close_empty_elements_with_.2F.3E_or_.3E.3F
> >
> > There's no Strict or similar thing in HTML5, AFAIK.
> >
> > (There is also something informally referred to as "XHTML5" which is
> serving
> > it as XML, which isn't what we want to do)
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Laurence Rowe <l...@lrowe.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> By my reading of the html 5 draft, it would seem conformant with the
> >> (html5) spec to serve a document with a text/html Content-Type but an
> >> XHTML Strict doctype.
> >>
> >> On 16 March 2010 20:14, Alexander Limi <l...@plone.org> wrote:
> >> > What does transitional doctype have to do with geolocation?
> >> >
> >> > (and XHTML STRICT is a problem, since it implies serving with XML MIME
> >> > type,
> >> > which IE doesn't handle, so that's unlikely to happen)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Veda Williams <v...@groundwire.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> This brings up the question of when we're moving away from
> Transitional
> >> >> DOCTYPE. Do we have a sense of when this will happen? I'm
> particularly
> >> >> keen
> >> >> on knowing, as it opens up the door for us in terms of geolocation in
> >> >> the
> >> >> next year or so.
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> - Veda
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mar 16, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Alexander Limi wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Wichert Akkerman <wich...@wiggy.net
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'ld like to see a list of pros and cons of using HTML 5 as well. I
> am
> >> >>> quite worried by the lack of proper support in existing browsers.
> None
> >> >>> of
> >> >>> them implement any of the existing HTML standards properly, and I
> fear
> >> >>> that
> >> >>> switching to the still unfinished HTML5 would be a several steps too
> >> >>> far at
> >> >>> this point in time.
> >> >>
> >> >> What parts in particular do you find are not working? Browsers that
> >> >> don't
> >> >> have dedicated support for HTML5 will just treat those tags similar
> to
> >> >> div
> >> >> elements (given an HTML5 shiv for styling to apply in IE), and most
> of
> >> >> the
> >> >> new form-related enhancements are additive in nature.
> >> >>
> >> >> In general, HTML5 renders even on IE6, there isn't much magic here
> (but
> >> >> of
> >> >> course it doesn't get any of the advantages either). HTML5 is mostly
> >> >> about
> >> >> standardizing edge case behaviors and adding new abilities that will
> >> >> gracefully degrade in older browsers — and then a few new tags like
> >> >> video/audio (that are also relatively easy to make degrade) and
> >> >> structural
> >> >> elements like article/footer, etc.
> >> >>
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