Thank you Pip. I forgot about Jay's film! Yes, fiction is a dubious term, but I'm teaching a fiction production course and need assignments that won't demand the conventional crew/actor model, considering the world we're living in.
Daniel -------------------------------------------- Daniel Robin Associate Professor of Film and Digital Media Production School of Film, Media & Theater Georgia State University 25 Park Place, Suite 1019, Atlanta, GA 30303 404.413.5773 (office) ________________________________ From: Frameworks <[email protected]> on behalf of FrameWorks Admin <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 10:52 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] short fiction films made from found footage or home movies There are thousands of found footage films. I like Rumpelstilzchen too - in fact the link you sent is to a pirated rip of the VHS I published in 1996! To be clear, the question was specifically about fiction films made from found footage. It’s an interesting question. For example I would consider Philip Hoffman’s 1986 “?O, Zoo! (The Making of a Fiction Film)” - because this film appears to be a documentary made from found home movies but it turns out to be a fiction film that was all shot by the filmmaker (therefore not found footage, finally, but therein lies the fiction). I would consider “Crossing the Great Sagrada” by Adrian Brunel (1924) which is a parody of a travelogue combining found footage with shot footage - so it is a fictional travelogue. And a film essay like “The Smell of Burning Ants” (1994) by Jay Rosenblatt. The film could be seen as a fiction about the coming of age of a boy told through home movies and educational documentaries, but the character is only incidentally referred to as “the boy” in a general sense and many boys are shown. Can it be considered a fiction film with nearly no plot and no diegesis? Or is it an experimental documentary? Finally, a film that comes to mind is “Dragonfly Eyes” by Xu Bing, a feature film from 2017 made entirely with surveillance camera footage in China. The soundtrack creates the fictional story of a woman transitioning from a Buddhist temple to a dairy farm. The genre is classified as a “mystery/documentary” which could only mean a fiction. Of course experimental films escape from the binary distinction of fiction/documentary but some films escape from the trinary of fiction/documentary/experimental." - Pip Chodorov PS Christophe Runne: Thank you for contributing but please refrain from copying the entire digest into your replies! On Dec 12, 2020, at 4:02 AM, Christoph Runne <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Found footage films. One of my favourites Rumpelstilzchen, (Jürgen Reble).<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymotion.com%2Fvideo%2Fx2ox3j&data=04%7C01%7Cdrobin%40gsu.edu%7Cab13a9f6229e4c5f52f608d89e516374%7C515ad73d8d5e4169895c9789dc742a70%7C0%7C0%7C637433419716924413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=LDYH0BjX9PjgbKSmiSzpA29RYJTWoSoW2YwsOpj20JI%3D&reserved=0> CAUTION: This email was sent from someone outside of the university. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
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