I hereby relinquish all rights to the title “The Global Hayseed” to anyone 
wishing to use it. Just thank me in a footnote.

> On Mar 5, 2021, at 1:11 PM, Michael Sicinski <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Jonathan, I hope you, or I, or someone writes a book entitled "The Global 
> Hayseed." It's just so evocative.
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>    1. Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions (Jay Hudson)
>    2. Re: Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions (Beebe, Roger W.)
>    3. Re: Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions (Larry Urbanski)
>    4. Re: Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions (Scott Dorsey)
>    5. Re: Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions (Matt Shaw)
>    6. Re: Difference between (Jonathan Walley)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jay Hudson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Cc: 
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> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 20:35:00 -0500
> Subject: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
> I have two issues with an Eiki SL-0 that I need help with:
> 
> First, a common issue.  The rubber around the lens has disintegrated.  I 
> recall the advice was to get 'surgical tubing' and wrap it around the lens in 
> layers until it is thick enough.   What exactly is the tubing that people are 
> referring to?
> 
> Secondly, the projector makes a horrible rattling noise when it runs forward. 
>  Inside the projector, as a part of the bottom axle of the feed arm, there 
> are two cup-shaped gears.  Below that, there is a piece that looks like an 
> upside down comma.  When I run the projector in reverse, the comma piece 
> moves up and presses the cup shape gears together.  Run forward, the comma 
> piece does not move.  This is what creates the rattling sound.  If I press 
> the cup shaped gears together manually, there is no rattling sound.  Until 
> recently, I hadn't used the projector in years.  It never used to have this 
> problem.  Any ideas with what is going on and how to fix it?
> 
> If anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it highly if they could share 
> them.
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Beebe, Roger W." <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Cc: 
> Bcc: 
> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 01:41:19 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
> Jay,
> 
>  
> 
> The focus issue is really easy to fix—it takes me less than 30 minutes now 
> (after doing it a dozen times).  I use shrink tubing like this:
> 
>  
> 
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-4-in-Length-Heat-Shrink-Tubing-Assortment-1-8-in-3-16-in-and-1-4-in-HST-AST/100166440
>  
> <https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-4-in-Length-Heat-Shrink-Tubing-Assortment-1-8-in-3-16-in-and-1-4-in-HST-AST/100166440>
>  
> 
> I do the variety pack, because I use a slightly smaller gauge for a first 
> layer or two & then a slightly larger one.  Pretty sure I just do three 
> layers total, but it’s been a minute since I last did it.  (I had much more 
> limited success with other kinds of tubing that didn’t grip as tightly.)
> 
>  
> 
> As for the second problem, I actually have the same issue on a Bell & Howell 
> 3580 that I’m looking at with a mechanical genius friend next week.  I can 
> update you if I figure it out, but if there’s someone out there who already 
> knows the answer, I’m all ears!
> 
>  
> 
> Best,
> 
> Roger
> 
>  
> 
> From: Frameworks <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Jay Hudson 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Date: Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 8:36 PM
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
> 
>  
> 
> I have two issues with an Eiki SL-0 that I need help with:
> 
>  
> 
> First, a common issue.  The rubber around the lens has disintegrated.  I 
> recall the advice was to get 'surgical tubing' and wrap it around the lens in 
> layers until it is thick enough.   What exactly is the tubing that people are 
> referring to?
> 
>  
> 
> Secondly, the projector makes a horrible rattling noise when it runs forward. 
>  Inside the projector, as a part of the bottom axle of the feed arm, there 
> are two cup-shaped gears.  Below that, there is a piece that looks like an 
> upside down comma.  When I run the projector in reverse, the comma piece 
> moves up and presses the cup shape gears together.  Run forward, the comma 
> piece does not move.  This is what creates the rattling sound.  If I press 
> the cup shaped gears together manually, there is no rattling sound.  Until 
> recently, I hadn't used the projector in years.  It never used to have this 
> problem.  Any ideas with what is going on and how to fix it?
> 
>  
> 
> If anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it highly if they could share 
> them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Larry Urbanski <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Cc: 
> Bcc: 
> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 20:47:28 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
> For the focus knob issue I made a video how I fix it. 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdNahj6tcks 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdNahj6tcks>
> For the rattling sound you have to disassemble all the gears from the bottom 
> shaft of the feed arm and lubricate the shaft with a good grease. The gears 
> rotate on the shaft and when the shaft gets dry it makes that terrible sound 
> in forward. Once lubricated it will be quiet.
> Larry Urbanski
> 
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 7:42 PM Beebe, Roger W. <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Jay,
> 
>  
> 
> The focus issue is really easy to fix—it takes me less than 30 minutes now 
> (after doing it a dozen times).  I use shrink tubing like this:
> 
>  
> 
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-4-in-Length-Heat-Shrink-Tubing-Assortment-1-8-in-3-16-in-and-1-4-in-HST-AST/100166440
>  
> <https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-4-in-Length-Heat-Shrink-Tubing-Assortment-1-8-in-3-16-in-and-1-4-in-HST-AST/100166440>
>  
> 
> I do the variety pack, because I use a slightly smaller gauge for a first 
> layer or two & then a slightly larger one.  Pretty sure I just do three 
> layers total, but it’s been a minute since I last did it.  (I had much more 
> limited success with other kinds of tubing that didn’t grip as tightly.)
> 
>  
> 
> As for the second problem, I actually have the same issue on a Bell & Howell 
> 3580 that I’m looking at with a mechanical genius friend next week.  I can 
> update you if I figure it out, but if there’s someone out there who already 
> knows the answer, I’m all ears!
> 
>  
> 
> Best,
> 
> Roger
> 
>  
> 
> From: Frameworks <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Jay Hudson 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Date: Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 8:36 PM
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
> 
>  
> 
> I have two issues with an Eiki SL-0 that I need help with:
> 
>  
> 
> First, a common issue.  The rubber around the lens has disintegrated.  I 
> recall the advice was to get 'surgical tubing' and wrap it around the lens in 
> layers until it is thick enough.   What exactly is the tubing that people are 
> referring to?
> 
>  
> 
> Secondly, the projector makes a horrible rattling noise when it runs forward. 
>  Inside the projector, as a part of the bottom axle of the feed arm, there 
> are two cup-shaped gears.  Below that, there is a piece that looks like an 
> upside down comma.  When I run the projector in reverse, the comma piece 
> moves up and presses the cup shape gears together.  Run forward, the comma 
> piece does not move.  This is what creates the rattling sound.  If I press 
> the cup shaped gears together manually, there is no rattling sound.  Until 
> recently, I hadn't used the projector in years.  It never used to have this 
> problem.  Any ideas with what is going on and how to fix it?
> 
>  
> 
> If anyone has any ideas, I would appreciate it highly if they could share 
> them.
> 
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Scott Dorsey <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
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> Cc: 
> Bcc: 
> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2021 21:53:42 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
> Larry is entirely correct about lubricating the cam gears BUT... if that is 
> a problem, likely you have a lot of other lubrication issues that are going
> to appear soon.  Get yourself a bottle of turbine oil and a tube of white
> grease and go through the full lubrication procedure in the manual.  Make
> SURE to lube the intermittent properly because it will destroy itself if it
> runs dry.  
> 
> The slot load mechanism has a lot of things that can get balky if they are
> not kept clean and lubricated, and it can shred your film very badly if it
> starts acting up.  Go through the whole lubrication.
> --scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2021 13:13:16 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Eiki SL-0 Maintenance Questions
> I'm about to have my EIKI SSL-0 back from Dwight at the Boston Connection for 
> many of the same issues. I had tinkered with fixing the issues on my own, but 
> they persisted, after purchasing the projector from someone who had it in a 
> closet for 30 years.
> 
> It was nice to invest in the tune-up, even if it meant a delay in processing 
> some film/buying more film stock.
> 
> http://cutfilm.com <http://cutfilm.com/>
> 
> 
> mattshaw.me <http://mattshaw.me/>
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> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:53 PM, Scott Dorsey <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> > Larry is entirely correct about lubricating the cam gears BUT... if that is
> > a problem, likely you have a lot of other lubrication issues that are going
> > to appear soon. Get yourself a bottle of turbine oil and a tube of white
> > grease and go through the full lubrication procedure in the manual. Make
> > SURE to lube the intermittent properly because it will destroy itself if it
> > runs dry.
> >
> > The slot load mechanism has a lot of things that can get balky if they are
> > not kept clean and lubricated, and it can shred your film very badly if it
> > starts acting up. Go through the whole lubrication.
> > --scott
> >
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> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 08:31:37 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Difference between
> Hello Jimbo,
> 
> I thought about Uncle Josh, or country rube, or “provincial.” All sound 
> pretty impolite. But the extreme reaction of Uncle Josh is what I hope for 
> from my students when they first encounter avant-garde/experimental cinema - 
> not so much the leaping into the screen, but certainly a strong emotional 
> reaction that leaves them disoriented. 
> 
> Using the term “hayseed,” I didn’t really have in mind anyone from a specific 
> region, as being from an urban environment doesn’t make a student any more 
> likely to have seen experimental films before coming to college. Lately I’ve 
> heard about the “global south” and the “global north,” a new variant on 
> industrialized vs. non-industrialized, elite vs. marginal, etc., which 
> projects the more regionally specific north/south distinction onto the world 
> in general. Perhaps we need a term like “the global hayseed.” 
> 
> JW
> 
>> On Mar 2, 2021, at 3:31 PM, James Kreul <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [I know “hayseed” is impolite, but I just mean it as blanket term for 
>> innocent eyes, and after all, I do teach in Ohio].
>> 
>> Jonathan,
>> 
>> Perhaps the film-historical reference that would be a bit more polite would 
>> be "Uncle Josh," referencing "Uncle Josh at the Moving Picture Show." 
>> Unless, of course, you believe that Uncle Josh is a "hayseed," as suggested 
>> by the British original, "The Countryman and the Cinematograph." 
>> 
>> Jim K.
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