Many thanks, Thomas
I had a look, but seems all the rolls are gone.

>From the beginning we wanted to work with reversal, and we had to start in
january (being the project about a year long observation of a garden), but
we weren't able to grab any Orwo UN54 stock, for the reasons all of you
know, but we had these 2x 400ft of double-x and we said let's have a try to
process it as reversal.

I'm pretty happy about the results, and so we go on with it.

I suspect that one can get decent results also using N74 or N75 as
reversal. Anyone ever tried?

best
livio

Il giorno venerdì 11 marzo 2022, Thomas Bartels <[email protected]> ha
scritto:
> Hi Livio,
> did you see there is someone in Denmark selling 34 rolls/122m of N75:
> https://www.ebay.de/itm/294841390126
> All the best for your project,
> Thomas.
> Thomas Bartels
> https://vimeo.com/thomasbartels
>
> Ugo Bo <[email protected]> hat am 11.03.2022 00:24 geschrieben:
>
> Many thanks to everybody.
>
> After my last post I got my hands on another "new" Lomo (UPB-1A) and it
actually works differently from the other "new" one: the lid comes on and
off much more easily, there's a wider gap to leave liquid to fill the tank
quickly, like in the "old" model. Now development comes even as expected.
>
> So seems working tolerances were quite shabby.
>
> I think I'll follow Friedemann advice for the other tank: I'll rework the
center of the bottom spiral a bit to keep less distance between it and the
tank's bottom.
>
> About agitation (up and down or gently rotation) I think is more a matter
of religion: I'm always have been of the up and down church, and I'm not
concerned about light spill, since I work only with a dim red light in my
darkroom, not directly over the tank.
>
> Just to let you know: the project we are working on had to start with
Orwo UN54 stock, but since we weren't able to buy anything yet we started
with the stock we had: double-x that we decided to unconventionally try as
reversal (PQ-Universal + Permanganate bleach). It came not so bad, actually
(after I solved the tank issues).
>
> Best
> Livio
> Il giorno gio 10 mar 2022 alle ore 09:15 Adrian Cousins <
[email protected]> ha scritto:
>
> I’ve had that issue with my first (used)  UPB-1A but I think it was
possibly something to do with the smaller components - screw, spacer etc
coming from a different tank (possibly a previous version), I bought a
couple of brand new tanks and I’m able to move the spiral up and down as
well as rotate on both of them with no problems, the lids are slightly
loose so you can lift them up on one side to let air in, this allows you to
pour chems in and out quickly
>
> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 at 13:44, Ethan Berry <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> I have sometimes filled the tank through the drain hose using a funnel at
the end of the hose. Drain it as you normally do.
> The "old" tanks that I have usually hold about 1,800 ml. I would guess
that the "new" tank holds slightly less.
> If the spindle won't go up and down, perhaps spinning it would work for
agitation.
>
> Ethan Berry
> ANYEYE Film Lab
> Montserrat College of Art
> 23 Essex Street,
> Beverly, MA 01915
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>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 5:23 AM Ugo Bo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hallo everybody
>
> I've been happily using a 50ft Lomo tank for years, mine is the "old"
> model (UPB-1 - version 1). Now a friends of mine bought the "new"
> model (UPB-1A or version 2) and I'm teaching him how to use it.
>
> As some of you probably now, the "new" one has a lower body than the
> "old" one (70mm against 78mm, here's the difference explained:
>
https://sites.google.com/site/olexserviceskinor/processing-of-a-cine-film-in-home-laboratory/spiral-processing-tanks/upb-1-upb-1a-spiral-tanks?authuser=0
).
>
> In the past I processed only super8 also with a "new" model, and it
> worked fine, but now, processing 16mm, I realized that a problem
> arises: the "new" one leaves a very tiny room for liquid to pass, so
> it takes a very long time to fill the tank, a problem that I never
> experienced with my "old" one. Long filling time makes developement
> uneven.
>
> When processing 2 x 16mm the problem is even worse: the gap is really
> thin, liquid takes ages to enter, and is also impossible to move the
> spiral up and down (my way of agitation).
>
> I thought of filling the tank first with liquid, and then dropping the
> spiral in the dark in the liquid, but is quite an hassle.
>
> Did you have the same issue? And what's your trick?
>
> Best
> Livio
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