film to film. hi,
I haven't written in a while. If you are looking to glue film to film, try double face tape. I works very well. 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Today's Topics: 1. Re: Lisbon, Portugal? (?) 2. Re: Adhering film-to-film (craig baldwin) 3. Re: Adhering film-to-film (eric stewart) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 15:36:07 -0300 From: ? <[email protected]> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Lisbon, Portugal? Message-ID: <CABzsWCTyos24b+FBAz-Kv=sQLsxE7Pn7wvkVCe9f0th+F9eD=q...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hey Justin! How are you? There are 3 film labs there. But if I'm not wrong any of them is at Lisbon. You could try to drop some lines to: [email protected] Monica Baptista and Cherry Kino are lovely and may answer you. Good luck, ? // kkinema.com.br // textodecinema.com // Em sex., 31 de mar. de 2023 ?s 11:37, Justin Rhody < [email protected]> escreveu: > I'll be visiting Lisbon Portugal for the first time in May. 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On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 12:53?PM robbie land <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I agr?e w Scott regarding cement method. You may also consider glue sticks, which I prefer adding more texture. Sent from my iPod > On Mar 27, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Scott Dorsey > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > ?Did you try film cement? Won't adhere to the emulsion side but you can do > base-to-leader. Not as flexible as rubber cement but should be clearer. > > You might want to get an interneg made as well as a scan, just for the future. > --scott > > -- > Frameworks mailing list > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.film-gallery.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fframeworks_film-gallery.org&data=05%7C01%7C%7C4e7f5d44e4d343b7656108db5787c61c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638200012895448474%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=HJHHfUCA7TWoygLjRv80vZdTmbjrMQTMd%2BXmcSWnFzU%3D&reserved=0<https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org> -- Frameworks mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.film-gallery.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fframeworks_film-gallery.org&data=05%7C01%7C%7C4e7f5d44e4d343b7656108db5787c61c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638200012895448474%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=HJHHfUCA7TWoygLjRv80vZdTmbjrMQTMd%2BXmcSWnFzU%3D&reserved=0<https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org> -- Photography & Film: justincliffordrhody.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fjustincliffordrhody.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C4e7f5d44e4d343b7656108db5787c61c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638200012895448474%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=rqIl6P0oRGhPK3MaZTuptMblMU%2F96HBN3VeSJS8KLyE%3D&reserved=0> No Name Cinema: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nonamecinema.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C4e7f5d44e4d343b7656108db5787c61c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638200012895448474%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=I99QYlIMC89mPFTT1vWz1xxxUf1d0zAm6IYLFMVd5%2FE%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nonamecinema.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C4e7f5d44e4d343b7656108db5787c61c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638200012895448474%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=I99QYlIMC89mPFTT1vWz1xxxUf1d0zAm6IYLFMVd5%2FE%3D&reserved=0><http://www.nonamecinema.org/> Physical media: physicalbooksandmedia.bandcamp.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fphysicalbooksandmedia.bandcamp.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C4e7f5d44e4d343b7656108db5787c61c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638200012895448474%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=dMJ1eanEIYZ2l3ChUo75IeV95EUZcBoTtade1tQCRmU%3D&reserved=0> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Anyone on this list have experience in this? Her concerns > aren't about archival-ness. She's just looking for what method would best > adhere the elements long enough to complete the film and have it scanned *(4 > months or so)*, while being as invisible as possible. > > In our tests, simply using splice tape causes a number of issues *(visible > tape marks, difficulty meticulously placing multiple tiny elements, air > bubbles)* and it seems that applying rubber cement with a thin paint > brush is the best option. > > Anything else we should look into? > > Thanks for your help. -Justin > > > -- > *Photography & Film: *justincliffordrhody.com > *No Name Cinema:* > *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nonamecinema.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C4e7f5d44e4d343b7656108db5787c61c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638200012895448474%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=I99QYlIMC89mPFTT1vWz1xxxUf1d0zAm6IYLFMVd5%2FE%3D&reserved=0* > > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nonamecinema.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C4e7f5d44e4d343b7656108db5787c61c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638200012895448474%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=I99QYlIMC89mPFTT1vWz1xxxUf1d0zAm6IYLFMVd5%2FE%3D&reserved=0<http://www.nonamecinema.org/>> > *Physical media:* *physicalbooksandmedia.bandcamp.com* > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fphysicalbooksandmedia.bandcamp.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C4e7f5d44e4d343b7656108db5787c61c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638200012895448474%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=dMJ1eanEIYZ2l3ChUo75IeV95EUZcBoTtade1tQCRmU%3D&reserved=0<http://physicalbooksandmedia.bandcamp.com/>> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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