hello, you may be interested in two short films, each exploring the human body through the lens of the industrial-medical-complex, via 1990’s medical training films.
Our Orifice: https://vimeo.com/curtisjamestamm/ourorifice Mother of Movement: https://vimeo.com/1063919591/dad55071bc?share=copy > On Apr 24, 2025, at 10:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send Frameworks mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Frameworks digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Hijacking the Archival Turn (Steve Polta) > 2. Re: ethno-poetic film ? (Felipe Guerrero) > 3. Re: ethno-poetic film ? (Ж) > 4. Re: Hijacking the Archival Turn (Adam Hyman) > 5. Re: Hijacking the Archival Turn (Steve Polta) > 6. Re: Hijacking the Archival Turn (Adam Hyman) > 7. Re: ethno-poetic film ? 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(Arindam Sen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 12:47:33 -0700 > From: Steve Polta <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hijacking the Archival Turn > Message-ID: > <caebiola-3ztfhrzx2khhwg+vbsjarfje84zw0nw0xkn2+2r...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > This piece by Rick Prelinerg might be informative to this conversation: > archive.fail > (it's a download; sorry about that) > > Steve Polta > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 3:47 PM Mihály Horváth <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hello Dear Frameworkers, >> >> I am compiling a list of experimental works that engage with the archival >> turn >> >> (either by liberating film from the archival condition of being frozen in >> an eternal futurity, seeking instead to actualize the medium in the >> present; by intervening directly in archival or museum-grade materials, >> including nitrate film, through processes such as manipulation, or even >> performative destruction). >> >> I’m particularly interested in works that articulate a position on this >> issue in a theoretically grounded yet practice-based manner. If you have >> any suggestions or references, I’d be deeply grateful! >> >> All the best to you all, >> >> G. Horváth Mihály >> -- >> Frameworks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://film-gallery.org/pipermail/frameworks_film-gallery.org/attachments/20250423/06c27512/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 17:30:24 -0300 > From: Felipe Guerrero <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] ethno-poetic film ? > Message-ID: > <cabf36siaqnhjza+vq-k6tknstorgktmwykuqsphqm1d-jf+...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Our latest film, *Morichales, *could expand this discussion: > https://filmotor.com/morichales/ > > El mié, 23 abr 2025 a las 11:07, scott (<[email protected]>) > escribió: > >> Sans Soleil is pretty accesible >> >> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 9:18 AM peter snowdon <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Renzo Maartens' films could make a good jumping off point for this kind >>> of conversation. >>> https://renzomartens.com/work/ >>> >>> Good luck! The difficult collaborations can often be the most fruitful:-) >>> Peter >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025, at 12:34 AM, Kitty wrote: >>>> =EF=BB=BF >>>> Hi Frameworks, >>>> >>>> I am working with an anthropologist on a (possibly defined as) >>> ethnographic f= >>>> ilm and he needs some experimental film context to help us get on the >>> same p= >>>> age. In fact he has little to no film history besides from the rather >>> mainst= >>>> ream cinema =E2=80=A6 so its time for a little experimental film >>> history...!= >>>> =20 >>>> >>>> Of course I have a list things forming already but I thought I would >>> pose th= >>>> is question here to really open up pandora's box to get a wide scope >>> beyond e= >>>> ven what I might be thinking about.... >>>> >>>> So really any filmmakers or specific films, installations, >>> performances, exp= >>>> anded cinema pieces, video art, etc, that could even be slightly >>> related to t= >>>> he subjects of; self reflective poetic ethnographic films, >>> documentaries tha= >>>> t question the idea of being documentaries, films where fiction and >>> fact sli= >>>> p and slide and also if they happen to touch on the subjects (but not >>> exclus= >>>> ively this) the global south, migratory workers, immigration, >>> colonialism, i= >>>> ndigenous culture, racism, and farming.=20 >>>> I know this is all very broad, but I wanted to let it be like that and >>> see w= >>>> hat varied answers I would get. =20 >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Katherine Bauer >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>> >>> -- >>> "Partnering with [authoritarian] regimes, it never pays off in the long >>> term." >>> JD Vance, Paris, 10 February 2025, as quoted by The Guardian. >>> >>> -- >>> Frameworks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>> >> -- >> Frameworks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://film-gallery.org/pipermail/frameworks_film-gallery.org/attachments/20250423/40704678/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:25:29 -0300 > From: Ж <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] ethno-poetic film ? > Message-ID: > <CABzsWCR=swhfsmyyfwujdojv5vp8fjzu4xjwv3ctrh0581v...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hey, > how are you? > > I would suggest two works, *Luchando* > <https://lightcone.org/en/film-7243-luchando> by yann beauvais. > and the installation Urban Stories/ Nanling-Guangzhou, by Sylvie Blocher. > > Good luck! > > Best, > Ж > ______________________________ > > [ele-dele/he-him] > *film( )s & + *kkinema.com.br > *publicações /editions **& +* textodecinema.com > > > > Em qua., 23 de abr. de 2025 às 17:32, Felipe Guerrero < > [email protected]> escreveu: > >> Our latest film, *Morichales, *could expand this discussion: >> https://filmotor.com/morichales/ >> >> El mié, 23 abr 2025 a las 11:07, scott (<[email protected]>) >> escribió: >> >>> Sans Soleil is pretty accesible >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 9:18 AM peter snowdon <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Renzo Maartens' films could make a good jumping off point for this kind >>>> of conversation. >>>> https://renzomartens.com/work/ >>>> >>>> Good luck! The difficult collaborations can often be the most fruitful:-) >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025, at 12:34 AM, Kitty wrote: >>>>> =EF=BB=BF >>>>> Hi Frameworks, >>>>> >>>>> I am working with an anthropologist on a (possibly defined as) >>>> ethnographic f= >>>>> ilm and he needs some experimental film context to help us get on the >>>> same p= >>>>> age. In fact he has little to no film history besides from the rather >>>> mainst= >>>>> ream cinema =E2=80=A6 so its time for a little experimental film >>>> history...!= >>>>> =20 >>>>> >>>>> Of course I have a list things forming already but I thought I would >>>> pose th= >>>>> is question here to really open up pandora's box to get a wide scope >>>> beyond e= >>>>> ven what I might be thinking about.... >>>>> >>>>> So really any filmmakers or specific films, installations, >>>> performances, exp= >>>>> anded cinema pieces, video art, etc, that could even be slightly >>>> related to t= >>>>> he subjects of; self reflective poetic ethnographic films, >>>> documentaries tha= >>>>> t question the idea of being documentaries, films where fiction and >>>> fact sli= >>>>> p and slide and also if they happen to touch on the subjects (but not >>>> exclus= >>>>> ively this) the global south, migratory workers, immigration, >>>> colonialism, i= >>>>> ndigenous culture, racism, and farming.=20 >>>>> I know this is all very broad, but I wanted to let it be like that and >>>> see w= >>>>> hat varied answers I would get. =20 >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> Katherine Bauer >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "Partnering with [authoritarian] regimes, it never pays off in the long >>>> term." >>>> JD Vance, Paris, 10 February 2025, as quoted by The Guardian. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>> >>> -- >>> Frameworks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>> >> -- >> Frameworks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://film-gallery.org/pipermail/frameworks_film-gallery.org/attachments/20250423/f728a539/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 14:48:26 -0700 > From: Adam Hyman <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hijacking the Archival Turn > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > At that link, I’m getting: > > This site can’t be reached > > archive.fail took too long to respond. > > > > Is that correct? > > > > Best regards, > > Adam > > > > From: Frameworks <[email protected]> on behalf of Steve > Polta <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, April 23, 2025 at 12:48 PM > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hijacking the Archival Turn > > > > This piece by Rick Prelinerg might be informative to this conversation: > archive.fail > > (it's a download; sorry about that) > > Steve Polta > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 3:47 PM Mihály Horváth <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Dear Frameworkers, > > I am compiling a list of experimental works that engage with the archival turn > > (either by liberating film from the archival condition of being frozen in an > eternal futurity, seeking instead to actualize the medium in the present; by > intervening directly in archival or museum-grade materials, including nitrate > film, through processes such as manipulation, or even performative > destruction). > > I’m particularly interested in works that articulate a position on this issue > in a theoretically grounded yet practice-based manner. If you have any > suggestions or references, I’d be deeply grateful! > > All the best to you all, > > G. Horváth Mihály > > -- > Frameworks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org > > -- Frameworks mailing list [email protected] > https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://film-gallery.org/pipermail/frameworks_film-gallery.org/attachments/20250423/406cfc1b/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 14:58:12 -0700 > From: Steve Polta <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hijacking the Archival Turn > Message-ID: > <caebiolb-86od+wamdwwhvbh9z761ndjv9ruiaguocgr5i2t...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > It worked for me on firefox but not on chrome. I don't know what to say > (other than I'm sorry). > > Steve Polta > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 2:50 PM Adam Hyman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> At that link, I’m getting: >> >> This site can’t be reached >> >> *archive.fail* took too long to respond. >> >> >> >> Is that correct? >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Adam >> >> >> >> *From: *Frameworks <[email protected]> on behalf of >> Steve Polta <[email protected]> >> *Reply-To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected] >>> >> *Date: *Wednesday, April 23, 2025 at 12:48 PM >> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: [Frameworks] Hijacking the Archival Turn >> >> >> >> This piece by Rick Prelinerg might be informative to this conversation: >> archive.fail >> >> (it's a download; sorry about that) >> >> Steve Polta >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 3:47 PM Mihály Horváth <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Hello Dear Frameworkers, >> >> I am compiling a list of experimental works that engage with the archival >> turn >> >> (either by liberating film from the archival condition of being frozen in >> an eternal futurity, seeking instead to actualize the medium in the >> present; by intervening directly in archival or museum-grade materials, >> including nitrate film, through processes such as manipulation, or even >> performative destruction). >> >> I’m particularly interested in works that articulate a position on this >> issue in a theoretically grounded yet practice-based manner. If you have >> any suggestions or references, I’d be deeply grateful! >> >> All the best to you all, >> >> G. Horváth Mihály >> >> -- >> Frameworks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> >> -- Frameworks mailing list [email protected] >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> -- >> Frameworks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://film-gallery.org/pipermail/frameworks_film-gallery.org/attachments/20250423/a46bb776/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 15:24:15 -0700 > From: Adam Hyman <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hijacking the Archival Turn > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks! Success with Firefox. > > > > From: Frameworks <[email protected]> on behalf of Steve > Polta <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, April 23, 2025 at 2:59 PM > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hijacking the Archival Turn > > > > It worked for me on firefox but not on chrome. I don't know what to say > (other than I'm sorry). > > > > Steve Polta > > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 2:50 PM Adam Hyman <[email protected]> wrote: > > At that link, I’m getting: > > This site can’t be reached > > archive.fail took too long to respond. > > > > Is that correct? > > > > Best regards, > > Adam > > > > From: Frameworks <[email protected]> on behalf of Steve > Polta <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, April 23, 2025 at 12:48 PM > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hijacking the Archival Turn > > > > This piece by Rick Prelinerg might be informative to this conversation: > archive.fail > > (it's a download; sorry about that) > > Steve Polta > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 3:47 PM Mihály Horváth <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Dear Frameworkers, > > I am compiling a list of experimental works that engage with the archival turn > > (either by liberating film from the archival condition of being frozen in an > eternal futurity, seeking instead to actualize the medium in the present; by > intervening directly in archival or museum-grade materials, including nitrate > film, through processes such as manipulation, or even performative > destruction). > > I’m particularly interested in works that articulate a position on this issue > in a theoretically grounded yet practice-based manner. If you have any > suggestions or references, I’d be deeply grateful! > > All the best to you all, > > G. Horváth Mihály > > -- > Frameworks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org > > -- Frameworks mailing list [email protected] > https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org > > -- > Frameworks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org > > -- Frameworks mailing list [email protected] > https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://film-gallery.org/pipermail/frameworks_film-gallery.org/attachments/20250423/1f679262/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:53:25 -0400 > From: Jimmy Schaus <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] ethno-poetic film ? > Message-ID: > <caj53rqdezhn5pg0wmwnskko-aowekwrzhtda5pp9+3tqyws...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > *Between Relating and Use *(Nazlı Dinçel) > > > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 5:28 PM Ж <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hey, >> how are you? >> >> I would suggest two works, *Luchando* >> <https://lightcone.org/en/film-7243-luchando> by yann beauvais. >> and the installation Urban Stories/ Nanling-Guangzhou, by Sylvie Blocher. >> >> Good luck! >> >> Best, >> Ж >> ______________________________ >> >> [ele-dele/he-him] >> *film( )s & + *kkinema.com.br >> *publicações /editions **& +* textodecinema.com >> >> >> >> Em qua., 23 de abr. de 2025 às 17:32, Felipe Guerrero < >> [email protected]> escreveu: >> >>> Our latest film, *Morichales, *could expand this discussion: >>> https://filmotor.com/morichales/ >>> >>> El mié, 23 abr 2025 a las 11:07, scott (<[email protected]>) >>> escribió: >>> >>>> Sans Soleil is pretty accesible >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 9:18 AM peter snowdon <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Renzo Maartens' films could make a good jumping off point for this kind >>>>> of conversation. >>>>> https://renzomartens.com/work/ >>>>> >>>>> Good luck! The difficult collaborations can often be the most >>>>> fruitful:-) >>>>> Peter >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025, at 12:34 AM, Kitty wrote: >>>>>> =EF=BB=BF >>>>>> Hi Frameworks, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am working with an anthropologist on a (possibly defined as) >>>>> ethnographic f= >>>>>> ilm and he needs some experimental film context to help us get on the >>>>> same p= >>>>>> age. In fact he has little to no film history besides from the rather >>>>> mainst= >>>>>> ream cinema =E2=80=A6 so its time for a little experimental film >>>>> history...!= >>>>>> =20 >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course I have a list things forming already but I thought I would >>>>> pose th= >>>>>> is question here to really open up pandora's box to get a wide scope >>>>> beyond e= >>>>>> ven what I might be thinking about.... >>>>>> >>>>>> So really any filmmakers or specific films, installations, >>>>> performances, exp= >>>>>> anded cinema pieces, video art, etc, that could even be slightly >>>>> related to t= >>>>>> he subjects of; self reflective poetic ethnographic films, >>>>> documentaries tha= >>>>>> t question the idea of being documentaries, films where fiction and >>>>> fact sli= >>>>>> p and slide and also if they happen to touch on the subjects (but not >>>>> exclus= >>>>>> ively this) the global south, migratory workers, immigration, >>>>> colonialism, i= >>>>>> ndigenous culture, racism, and farming.=20 >>>>>> I know this is all very broad, but I wanted to let it be like that >>>>> and see w= >>>>>> hat varied answers I would get. =20 >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> Katherine Bauer >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> "Partnering with [authoritarian] regimes, it never pays off in the long >>>>> term." >>>>> JD Vance, Paris, 10 February 2025, as quoted by The Guardian. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>> >>> -- >>> Frameworks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>> >> -- >> Frameworks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://film-gallery.org/pipermail/frameworks_film-gallery.org/attachments/20250423/450c74be/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 13:04:21 -0700 > From: Rick Prelinger <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hijacking the Archival Turn > Message-ID: > <caj59h0kqoomna7ntegdwhrck1meaaxrtbgp9ofj6sc7twyh...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > And also take a look at archives.fail. > > Rick > > Rick Prelinger > Prelinger Library & Archives > San Francisco, California > [email protected] > > Emerit Professor, Film & Digital Media > University of California, Santa Cruz > > www.prelinger.com > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025, 12:49 Steve Polta <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This piece by Rick Prelinerg might be informative to this conversation: >> archive.fail >> (it's a download; sorry about that) >> >> Steve Polta >> >> On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 3:47 PM Mihály Horváth <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello Dear Frameworkers, >>> >>> I am compiling a list of experimental works that engage with the archival >>> turn >>> >>> (either by liberating film from the archival condition of being frozen in >>> an eternal futurity, seeking instead to actualize the medium in the >>> present; by intervening directly in archival or museum-grade materials, >>> including nitrate film, through processes such as manipulation, or even >>> performative destruction). >>> >>> I’m particularly interested in works that articulate a position on this >>> issue in a theoretically grounded yet practice-based manner. If you have >>> any suggestions or references, I’d be deeply grateful! >>> >>> All the best to you all, >>> >>> G. Horváth Mihály >>> -- >>> Frameworks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>> >> -- >> Frameworks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://film-gallery.org/pipermail/frameworks_film-gallery.org/attachments/20250423/a7f9f156/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 15:10:58 -0700 > From: Rick Prelinger <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hijacking the Archival Turn > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > My experience as well. Doesn’t work in Chrome. > > You might also visit archives.fail > > Rick > >> On Apr 23, 2025, at 2:58 PM, Steve Polta <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It worked for me on firefox but not on chrome. I don't know what to say >> (other than I'm sorry). >> >> Steve Polta >> >> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 2:50 PM Adam Hyman <[email protected]> wrote: >> At that link, I’m getting: >> This site can’t be reached >> archive.fail took too long to respond. >> Is that correct? >> Best regards, >> Adam >> From: Frameworks <[email protected]> on behalf of Steve >> Polta <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >> Date: Wednesday, April 23, 2025 at 12:48 PM >> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Hijacking the Archival Turn >> This piece by Rick Prelinerg might be informative to this conversation: >> archive.fail >> (it's a download; sorry about that) >> >> Steve Polta >> On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 3:47 PM Mihály Horváth <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Hello Dear Frameworkers, >> >> I am compiling a list of experimental works that engage with the archival >> turn >> >> (either by liberating film from the archival condition of being frozen in an >> eternal futurity, seeking instead to actualize the medium in the present; by >> intervening directly in archival or museum-grade materials, including >> nitrate film, through processes such as manipulation, or even performative >> destruction). >> >> I’m particularly interested in works that articulate a position on this >> issue in a theoretically grounded yet practice-based manner. If you have any >> suggestions or references, I’d be deeply grateful! >> >> All the best to you all, >> >> G. Horváth Mihály >> -- >> Frameworks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> -- Frameworks mailing list [email protected] >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> -- >> Frameworks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> -- >> Frameworks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org > > Rick Prelinger > Prelinger Library & Archives, San Francisco > www.prelinger.com > www.prelingerlibrary.org > [email protected] > > Emerit Professor, Film + Digital Media > UC Santa Cruz > [email protected] > > For information on accessing and reusing films in the Prelinger Collection, > please visit http://prelingerFAQ.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 20:16:47 -0400 > From: Jimmy Schaus <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] ethno-poetic film ? > Message-ID: > <caj53rqewmykxey9iaqisr_buf7pga1pf1hgxhf_+xre_jll...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Oh, and The Laughing Alligator (Juan Downey) and any number of films by > Ojoboca. > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 6:53 PM Jimmy Schaus <[email protected]> wrote: > >> *Between Relating and Use *(Nazlı Dinçel) >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 5:28 PM Ж <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hey, >>> how are you? >>> >>> I would suggest two works, *Luchando* >>> <https://lightcone.org/en/film-7243-luchando> by yann beauvais. >>> and the installation Urban Stories/ Nanling-Guangzhou, by Sylvie Blocher. >>> >>> Good luck! >>> >>> Best, >>> Ж >>> ______________________________ >>> >>> [ele-dele/he-him] >>> *film( )s & + *kkinema.com.br >>> *publicações /editions **& +* textodecinema.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Em qua., 23 de abr. de 2025 às 17:32, Felipe Guerrero < >>> [email protected]> escreveu: >>> >>>> Our latest film, *Morichales, *could expand this discussion: >>>> https://filmotor.com/morichales/ >>>> >>>> El mié, 23 abr 2025 a las 11:07, scott (<[email protected]>) >>>> escribió: >>>> >>>>> Sans Soleil is pretty accesible >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 9:18 AM peter snowdon <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Renzo Maartens' films could make a good jumping off point for this >>>>>> kind of conversation. >>>>>> https://renzomartens.com/work/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck! The difficult collaborations can often be the most >>>>>> fruitful:-) >>>>>> Peter >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025, at 12:34 AM, Kitty wrote: >>>>>>> =EF=BB=BF >>>>>>> Hi Frameworks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am working with an anthropologist on a (possibly defined as) >>>>>> ethnographic f= >>>>>>> ilm and he needs some experimental film context to help us get on >>>>>> the same p= >>>>>>> age. In fact he has little to no film history besides from the >>>>>> rather mainst= >>>>>>> ream cinema =E2=80=A6 so its time for a little experimental film >>>>>> history...!= >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course I have a list things forming already but I thought I would >>>>>> pose th= >>>>>>> is question here to really open up pandora's box to get a wide scope >>>>>> beyond e= >>>>>>> ven what I might be thinking about.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So really any filmmakers or specific films, installations, >>>>>> performances, exp= >>>>>>> anded cinema pieces, video art, etc, that could even be slightly >>>>>> related to t= >>>>>>> he subjects of; self reflective poetic ethnographic films, >>>>>> documentaries tha= >>>>>>> t question the idea of being documentaries, films where fiction and >>>>>> fact sli= >>>>>>> p and slide and also if they happen to touch on the subjects (but >>>>>> not exclus= >>>>>>> ively this) the global south, migratory workers, immigration, >>>>>> colonialism, i= >>>>>>> ndigenous culture, racism, and farming.=20 >>>>>>> I know this is all very broad, but I wanted to let it be like that >>>>>> and see w= >>>>>>> hat varied answers I would get. =20 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> Katherine Bauer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> "Partnering with [authoritarian] regimes, it never pays off in the >>>>>> long term." >>>>>> JD Vance, Paris, 10 February 2025, as quoted by The Guardian. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>> >>> -- >>> Frameworks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://film-gallery.org/pipermail/frameworks_film-gallery.org/attachments/20250423/f9eeee99/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 10:55:01 +0200 > From: Arindam Sen <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] ethno-poetic film ? > Message-ID: > <campglsy7rr1dzsvtvtgpcu48a8bh1rrj18bo5d33lxk7zyo...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >> From the top of my head, Chick Strand, Diane Kitchen, and Mark LaPore. > > On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 at 02:19, Jimmy Schaus <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Oh, and The Laughing Alligator (Juan Downey) and any number of films by >> Ojoboca. >> >> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 6:53 PM Jimmy Schaus <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> *Between Relating and Use *(Nazlı Dinçel) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 5:28 PM Ж <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey, >>>> how are you? >>>> >>>> I would suggest two works, *Luchando* >>>> <https://lightcone.org/en/film-7243-luchando> by yann beauvais. >>>> and the installation Urban Stories/ Nanling-Guangzhou, by Sylvie >>>> Blocher. >>>> >>>> Good luck! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Ж >>>> ______________________________ >>>> >>>> [ele-dele/he-him] >>>> *film( )s & + *kkinema.com.br >>>> *publicações /editions **& +* textodecinema.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Em qua., 23 de abr. de 2025 às 17:32, Felipe Guerrero < >>>> [email protected]> escreveu: >>>> >>>>> Our latest film, *Morichales, *could expand this discussion: >>>>> https://filmotor.com/morichales/ >>>>> >>>>> El mié, 23 abr 2025 a las 11:07, scott (<[email protected]>) >>>>> escribió: >>>>> >>>>>> Sans Soleil is pretty accesible >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 9:18 AM peter snowdon <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Renzo Maartens' films could make a good jumping off point for this >>>>>>> kind of conversation. >>>>>>> https://renzomartens.com/work/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good luck! The difficult collaborations can often be the most >>>>>>> fruitful:-) >>>>>>> Peter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025, at 12:34 AM, Kitty wrote: >>>>>>>> =EF=BB=BF >>>>>>>> Hi Frameworks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am working with an anthropologist on a (possibly defined as) >>>>>>> ethnographic f= >>>>>>>> ilm and he needs some experimental film context to help us get on >>>>>>> the same p= >>>>>>>> age. In fact he has little to no film history besides from the >>>>>>> rather mainst= >>>>>>>> ream cinema =E2=80=A6 so its time for a little experimental film >>>>>>> history...!= >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Of course I have a list things forming already but I thought I >>>>>>> would pose th= >>>>>>>> is question here to really open up pandora's box to get a wide >>>>>>> scope beyond e= >>>>>>>> ven what I might be thinking about.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So really any filmmakers or specific films, installations, >>>>>>> performances, exp= >>>>>>>> anded cinema pieces, video art, etc, that could even be slightly >>>>>>> related to t= >>>>>>>> he subjects of; self reflective poetic ethnographic films, >>>>>>> documentaries tha= >>>>>>>> t question the idea of being documentaries, films where fiction and >>>>>>> fact sli= >>>>>>>> p and slide and also if they happen to touch on the subjects (but >>>>>>> not exclus= >>>>>>>> ively this) the global south, migratory workers, immigration, >>>>>>> colonialism, i= >>>>>>>> ndigenous culture, racism, and farming.=20 >>>>>>>> I know this is all very broad, but I wanted to let it be like that >>>>>>> and see w= >>>>>>>> hat varied answers I would get. =20 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>> Katherine Bauer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> "Partnering with [authoritarian] regimes, it never pays off in the >>>>>>> long term." >>>>>>> JD Vance, Paris, 10 February 2025, as quoted by The Guardian. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>> >>> -- >> Frameworks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://film-gallery.org/pipermail/frameworks_film-gallery.org/attachments/20250424/35b6bf99/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > -- > Frameworks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Frameworks Digest, Vol 221, Issue 5 > ******************************************
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