Angela died; Yervant is alive. Multiple people sent an email address. Thank you all..
Responding to Fred’s tangent: In my view, the single worst thing one can do at this time with AI is check facts, as has been already shown by AI generating lists of non-existing books and such and people sending them out without double checking them. https://www.npr.org/2025/05/20/nx-s1-5405022/fake-summer-reading-list-ai AI DOES NOT THINK. IT IS NOT A SEARCH ENGINE NOR A DATABASE. IT IS NOT A SUITABLE REPLACEMENT FOR GOOGLE SEARCH (when Google search was effective). Furthermore, my current view is that it will lead to the decline of critical thinking, as is already shown by students using it to solve problems and write essays without having to learn how to do so themselves. And it will help destroy the world due to the mammoth amounts of water and energy the computers require. It analyzes patterns of words and data to find patterns. It gives answers which fit the patterns that it has “learned.” It makes things up to come up with answers that fit the pattern. It scrapes up large amounts of data and strives to distill it and provide an answer but has no way to verify that anything it says is actually “true” or “correct” although the more data it scrapes, the more likely it is that it will find things that fit the form of a correct answer, as it seems to have done with you. But the more you use it to check facts, the sooner you will find that it gives you errors. But you may never see the errors, as you may never double check its responses, thinking that it is a useful fact checker. But it isn’t. If you want to use it to help generate the structure of an essay or what answers might look like, sure, but don’t be under the impression that what it gives you is necessarily correct. I still do a Google search, but do not use the AI generated response. Instead, I click on the tab for “Web” and get results akin to what Google provided back when it was a more effective search engine. Best regards, Adam From: Frameworks <[email protected]> on behalf of Fred Camper <[email protected]> Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2025 at 6:34 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Angela Ricci Lucchi and Yervant Gianikian - Film perduto(Lost Film) I was originally appalled by AI. I still am, but now it is starting to prove very useful for many things, and I will use it to check facts. According to ChatGPT, it is Angela who died in 2018; Yervant continues to work. [You can ignore the rest of this; it's about me] This engine really has improved. Their entry on one subject I would like to think I know something about, me, used to be full of errors; now it gets the connections between all my "projects" (critical writing, art, filmmaking, and teaching) pretty right, almost as if it is actually intelligent.. (OK, can't resist: ""In short: Fred Camper is a foundational voice in American avant‑garde cinema—bridging roles as a critic, filmmaker, educator, and artist, all rooted in a deep commitment to formal complexity and perceptual rigor.") Fred Camper Chicago On 6/24/2025 8:17 PM, Steve Anker wrote: Hi Adam, I need to give it some thought. I’m fairly sure that Yervant died a few years ago, but that might not be the case. I’m sure that I can come up with a name or two who will know about his whereabouts and if his/their films are available. Steve Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2025, at 8:05 AM, Adam Hyman <[email protected]> wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know the current contact for Yervant Gianikian, or whom to contacted regarding screening Film perduto(Lost Film) (2008) by Angela Ricci Lucchi and Yervant Gianikian and other films of theirs? Thank you! Best regards, Adam ----- Adam Hyman Executive Director Los Angeles Filmforum www.lafilmforum.org [email protected] 323-377-7238 -- Frameworks mailing list [email protected] https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org -- Frameworks mailing list [email protected] https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org
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