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>   1. Re: Experimental films merging dance & performance with
>      documentary (Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez)
>   2. Re: Experimental films merging dance & performance with
>      documentary (Michael Betancourt)
>   3. field-level processing in video (jared ashburn)
>   4. Re: field-level processing in video (mrktosc)
>   5. Re: field-level processing in video (Adam Hyman)
>   6. Re: field-level processing in video (Michael Betancourt)
>   7. Re: Experimental films merging dance & performance with
>      documentary (Brandon Walley)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 14:04:11 -0400
> From: Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez <[email protected]>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Experimental films merging dance &
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> Please see my film "finding Lost & Found" an experimental documentary about
> the creation of a dance piece with a mixed-ability dance company
> https://vimeo.com/683961546/185ffb32db?ts=0&share=copy
> 
> enjoy today...
> 
> Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez
> Filmmaker, Artist, Writer
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> On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 8:34 AM Arindam Sen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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>> A few oddball favourites from the top of my head:
>> 
>> The films of Maria Klonaris and Katerina Thomadaki, like Selva: Un
>> portrait de Parvaneh Navaï (1982) which is marvellous.
>> Eliane Summers’ Windows in the Kitchen (1983)
>> Portrait der Cordua (1969) by HHK Schoenherr
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 at 14:19, Albert Alcoz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> A Study in Coreography for Camera (Maya Deren,1945)
>>> Pas de Deux (Norman McLaren, 1968)
>>> The firsts films by Yvonne Rainer.
>>> Dance or Exercise on the Perimeter of the Square (Bruce Nauman, 1967)
>>> Come and Dance with me (Ojoboca, 2013)
>>> Etc. Etc.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://albertalcoz.com/ <http://www.albertalcoz.com/>
>>> 
>>> El dj., 31 de jul. 2025, 10:03, Esperanza Collado <
>>> [email protected]> va escriure:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> *Pas de ciel *(1987), by Teo Hernández fits well your approach I guess.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> El jue, 31 jul 2025 a las 0:07, <[email protected]> escribió:
>>>> 
>>>>> Annik Leroy et Julie Morel: LA FORCE DIAGONALE
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://augusteorts.be/en/catalogue/162/la-force-diagonale
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greatings
>>>>> 
>>>>> Els (Belgium)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2025-07-30 19:38, m b wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doris Chase
>>>>> Yvonne Rainer
>>>>> 
>>>>> www.mbillyou.com
>>>>> @mbillyou_film <https://www.instagram.com/mbillyou_film/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 1:16 PM aktivfilm <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear frameworkers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can you recommend any experimental or avant-garde films that blend
>>>>> dance/ performance and documentary elements in innovative ways?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance for your feedback.
>>>>> Ruben
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> ruben guzman
>>>>> raymond beluga studio
>>>>> www.raymondbelugastudio.com
>>>>> https://raymondbelugastudio.com/about-us/ruben-guzman/
>>>>> https://vimeo.com/user10836118
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> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 23:13:55 -0500
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> Subject: [Frameworks] field-level processing in video
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> Does anyone know if Ken Jacobs, Ernie Gehr, or any other artists besides
> Woody and Steina Vasulka have worked at the level of the video field? I’m
> particularly interested in practices that manipulate fields (1/60 second in
> NTSC), whether for timing-based image alteration or for preserving
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> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 21:29:46 -0700
> From: mrktosc <[email protected]>
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> I have a recollection that Ernie made a video piece called Crystal Palace 
> that specifically depended upon interlace and field stuff and as a result he 
> had difficulty translating it later to progressive digital video formats, 
> although maybe that was done successfully since I last heard about it. I’m 
> pretty sure he had two pieces that worked with this, but I can’t remember the 
> name of the other one.
> 
> Mark
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>> On Aug 8, 2025, at 9:16 PM, jared ashburn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Does anyone know if Ken Jacobs, Ernie Gehr, or any other artists besides 
>> Woody and Steina Vasulka have worked at the level of the video field? I’m 
>> particularly interested in practices that manipulate fields (1/60 second in 
>> NTSC), whether for timing-based image alteration or for preserving 
>> field-specific flicker phenomena. Thanks!
>> --
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> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2025 21:34:31 -0700
> From: Adam Hyman <[email protected]>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] field-level processing in video
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> Hi,
> We tried to screen it (Ernie's piece) without success at Los Angeles 
> Filmforum once because the digital projector couldn't do what he needed it to 
> do for the piece to work.
> 
> Best regards,
> adam
> 
> On 8/8/25, 9:31 PM, "Frameworks on behalf of mrktosc" 
> <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a recollection that Ernie made a video piece called Crystal Palace 
> that specifically depended upon interlace and field stuff and as a result he 
> had difficulty translating it later to progressive digital video formats, 
> although maybe that was done successfully since I last heard about it. I’m 
> pretty sure he had two pieces that worked with this, but I can’t remember the 
> name of the other one.
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2025, at 9:16 PM, jared ashburn <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Does anyone know if Ken Jacobs, Ernie Gehr, or any other artists besides 
>> Woody and Steina Vasulka have worked at the level of the video field? I’m 
>> particularly interested in practices that manipulate fields (1/60 second in 
>> NTSC), whether for timing-based image alteration or for preserving 
>> field-specific flicker phenomena. Thanks!
>> --
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> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2025 02:23:05 -0400
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> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2025 09:42:55 -0400
> From: Brandon Walley <[email protected]>
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> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Experimental films merging dance &
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> For contemporary examples, there was an entire program in last year's Ann
> Arbor Film Festival devoted to this.
> https://aafilmfest.filmchief.com/shop/tickets?v=58
> 
> Brandon Walley <https://brand500.wixsite.com/website>
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2025 at 3:33 PM Michael Betancourt <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> This might be a bit too far from what you're looking for:
>> https://vimeo.com/986463987
>> *La Fée Électricité* (The Electric Fairy) is an animation of generative
>> glitches made by AI (LoRA) models interacting to cancel each other’s work.
>> Adapted from a brief sequence of a serpentine dance filmed in 1896, this
>> aimaglitch movie is an homage to dancer and choreographer Loïe Fuller. It
>> is a "dance film" where the literal dance becomes a metaphor for generative
>> AI's technological transformation of the source imagery.
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Betancourt, Ph.D
>> https://linktr.ee/cinegraphic | cell 305.562.9192| zoom 875 581 4648
>> <https://scad.zoom.us/j/8755814648?pwd=QW1UaXhpSmRjZCttN3JOdGVvME5PZz09>
>> 
>> sent from my phone
>> 
>> On Aug 8, 2025, at 2:06 PM, Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Please see my film "finding Lost & Found" an experimental documentary
>> about the creation of a dance piece with a mixed-ability dance company
>> https://vimeo.com/683961546/185ffb32db?ts=0&share=copy
>> 
>> enjoy today...
>> 
>> Dinorah de Jesús Rodríguez
>> Filmmaker, Artist, Writer
>> 
>> solislandmediaworks.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 8:34 AM Arindam Sen <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> A few oddball favourites from the top of my head:
>>> 
>>> The films of Maria Klonaris and Katerina Thomadaki, like Selva: Un
>>> portrait de Parvaneh Navaï (1982) which is marvellous.
>>> Eliane Summers’ Windows in the Kitchen (1983)
>>> Portrait der Cordua (1969) by HHK Schoenherr
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 at 14:19, Albert Alcoz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> A Study in Coreography for Camera (Maya Deren,1945)
>>>> Pas de Deux (Norman McLaren, 1968)
>>>> The firsts films by Yvonne Rainer.
>>>> Dance or Exercise on the Perimeter of the Square (Bruce Nauman, 1967)
>>>> Come and Dance with me (Ojoboca, 2013)
>>>> Etc. Etc.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://albertalcoz.com/ <http://www.albertalcoz.com/>
>>>> 
>>>> El dj., 31 de jul. 2025, 10:03, Esperanza Collado <
>>>> [email protected]> va escriure:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Pas de ciel *(1987), by Teo Hernández fits well your approach I guess.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> 
>>>>> El jue, 31 jul 2025 a las 0:07, <[email protected]> escribió:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Annik Leroy et Julie Morel: LA FORCE DIAGONALE
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://augusteorts.be/en/catalogue/162/la-force-diagonale
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greatings
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Els (Belgium)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2025-07-30 19:38, m b wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Doris Chase
>>>>>> Yvonne Rainer
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> www.mbillyou.com
>>>>>> @mbillyou_film <https://www.instagram.com/mbillyou_film/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 1:16 PM aktivfilm <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear frameworkers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can you recommend any experimental or avant-garde films that blend
>>>>>> dance/ performance and documentary elements in innovative ways?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your feedback.
>>>>>> Ruben
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ruben guzman
>>>>>> raymond beluga studio
>>>>>> www.raymondbelugastudio.com
>>>>>> https://raymondbelugastudio.com/about-us/ruben-guzman/
>>>>>> https://vimeo.com/user10836118
>>>>>> --
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>>>>> 
>>>>> --
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