Thanks Roger, appreciate hearing your insights on this. I learned shooting with a bolex using sound stock, it's a good choice, very much agree. Still shoot with it as I'm hand developing film (much easier to develop under red lights, too). Trying to find Washi film (not in bulk) to try out next.
Appreciate the suggestions for the Kodak splicers and B&H filmo cams. Perhaps it could be a good thing to create some sort of handout for students that want to continue shooting on their own, maybe call it something like, "I Took an Analog Filmmaking Class, so Now What?" : D Happy new year, Bren On Mon, Dec 29, 2025 at 1:00 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Frameworks mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Frameworks digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Screenings in England + Scotland? ([email protected]) > 2. Re: How to Make Analog Filmmaking Financially Accessible? > (Beebe, Roger) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2025 15:27:48 +0000 > From: <[email protected]> > To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Screenings in England + Scotland? > Message-ID: > <1767022068371.7.4456@webmail-backend-production-6d84d87ff9-4wbrv> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Justin, > > Besides the venues/programs that you mention you could get in touch with > the following organisations/people: > > - The Cube cinema in Bristol (community owned cinema) > - Analogue Ensemble (recurring program in Ramsgate) > - Erehwon (a lab run by James Holcombe) > - St Ives film (an organisation run by Joanna Mayes) > - Contact Screenings (a screening series organised by Simon Payne and > Andrew Vallence) > - Not-Nowhere (an artist run lab in London) > - Aber Film Lab (a film lab based at Aberystwyth University run by Mars > Saude) > - Cafe OTO in London regularly hosts expanded cinema events > - There is also a collective in Edinburgh but I can't find the name / > people involved at the moment > > > Most of these people/organisations have websites and/or are active on > Instagram, you can find their contact details there. > > Hope this helps! > > Karel > On Saturday, December 27, 2025 at 7:25:01 pm -00:00, Justin Rhody < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > This April my experimental free-improv trio K/S/R < > https://physicalbooksandmedia.bandcamp.com/album/already-in-heaven> will > be touring England and Scotland for 2 weeks (4/9 - 4/21). All three members > of the group co-founded No Name Cinema <http://nonamecinema.org> in Santa > Fe NM, we're all experimental filmmakers, and we're interested in possibly > doing some screenings of our work while we're there. > > > > I'm aware of the following: Dream Sequence,Exploding Cinema, Close Up > Cinema, LUX(London & Glasgow),Alchemy,Berwick Film & Media Arts, Star & > Shadow, Dream Sequence, and Elevation Festival. > > > > Are there other venues, series, or fests focused on experimental film > that anyone would recommend reaching out to? > > > > Thanks, > > Justin > > > > -- > > > > Photography & Film:<http://justincliffordrhody.com> > > > > No Name Cinema: <http://www.nonamecinema.org> > > > > Physical media:<http://physicalbooksandmedia.bandcamp.com> > > > > -- > > Frameworks mailing list > > [email protected] > > < > https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://film-gallery.org/pipermail/frameworks_film-gallery.org/attachments/20251229/d925384d/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2025 16:03:51 +0000 > From: "Beebe, Roger" <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] How to Make Analog Filmmaking Financially > Accessible? > Message-ID: > < > dm6pr01mb5993712e6bc16e374cc5e0ce82...@dm6pr01mb5993.prod.exchangelabs.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Bren, > > It looks like your Xmas eve message hasn’t been responded to yet, but > these are important questions I wrestle with too. Even when students have > access to gear—like they do when they take my 16mm class—they have to spend > a lot just on film and processing. It’s one reason I don’t teach that > class more often. > > That said, I do think cameraless filmmaking is one of the answers. We > have a giant bin of cast-off 16mm educational & industrial film (that was > left over after an installation of Gibson + Recoder’s “Light Spill” at a > local campus gallery) & I give students access to all that film as source > material. My students made a lot of direct animation loops this semester & > basically didn’t spend a dime. > > For shooting, I was lucky enough to be given 100 rolls of expired Tri-X by > a local filmmaker who got it as a prize at a festival about a decade ago, > so I’ve been letting our students use that too. Before I had that, we > tended to shoot lab stocks, which are about 1/3 of the price of camera > stocks. You can get 3378E from Mono No Aware for $20 a roll. We hand > process, which means no shipping & very minimal costs there too. (I was > also gifted dozens of pouches of powdered Dektol & D-76 this summer, so > we’re working our way through that.) > > After they graduate, they will need at least a splicer and projector. A > Kodak press tape splicer can work to get them started. It looks like you > can still get one of those for about $30 on eBay. They’ll have to invest > more in a working projector, but it’s still a lot less than an annual > subscription to Adobe & should keep them in business for a lifetime. > > For cameras, B&H Filmos can still be had for relatively cheap, although > they’ll need to look for one of the models that only has a single pull-down > claw (or can only shoot double-perf film). Depending on where they are, a > Bolex rental could be an option too. Mono rents them for $55/day. > > You asked about 35mm, but that’s something I haven’t done much of, mostly > because I don’t have an easy way to see what I’ve done. I do think working > on 16mm can be cheaper than working in video, largely because the gear > won’t become e-waste in 5 years… > > Best, > Roger > > > From: Frameworks <[email protected]> on behalf of Bren > Vienrich-Felling <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2025 at 12:22 PM > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: [Frameworks] How to Make Analog Filmmaking Financially Accessible? > > This Message Is From an External Sender > This message came from outside your organization. > Report Suspicious< > https://us-phishalarm-ewt.proofpoint.com/EWT/v1/KGKeukY!vYQd06ktgEpjC7ceUMakuqlqV9pXlkJknso4VjTxsCB9yDdb51JIC8IVDpuc2deHokedsb9_tsguzu85KhaUGeRSahgbKZBQiVXS61hC5zObZY6xzubpMWjTdyve$ > > > > Dear Framework Community, > > How do you teach analog filmmaking as a financially accessible practice? > > As I continue to scour Ebay for analog equipment and supplies, I question > how I can explain to others how to continue pursuing analog filmmaking > after they finish a course, workshop or online tutorial? What if home for > someone is on a different continent with limited resources, or perhaps they > live nearby but on a limited budget? > > Does anyone have any creative ideas or experiences regarding this matter? > Curious to hear thoughts on how to teach 16mm and especially 35mm through > cameraless and lens-based approaches. > > The factors I'm thinking about are: > - Equipment (splicer, tape, camera, scanner, projector, computer, digital > editing applications, analog editing equipment). > - Developing film (developer, fixer, photo flo, depending on film type). > - Acquiring film > > * I'm an educator just starting out. > * Continuing to pursue camera and cameraless approaches with celluloid > film, but have not taught an analog filmmaking course, (hopefully one day, > maybe). > * I realize that as I go further into this deep well, I question how I > can teach others that want to continue this hobby after they finish a > class, workshop, etc. > * I'm in the process of experimenting with different approaches > (natural-based developing techniques, sewing instead of taping, cameraless > animation on recycled filmstock, etc.) but want to hear from you all. If > someone wants to just continue exploring this interest and aren't trying to > send film off to a lab for developing, scanning, etc. and applying for > large grants is an inaccessible thing, what are some DIY cheapest-of-cheap > ways to continue doing this? > > - Bren > > -- > > Bren Vienrich-Felling > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://film-gallery.org/pipermail/frameworks_film-gallery.org/attachments/20251229/6509a525/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > -- > Frameworks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Frameworks Digest, Vol 257, Issue 1 > ****************************************** > -- Bren Vienrich-Felling [email protected]
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