The "frame" is a major issue in the history of painting and there are
volumes written especially within the modernist and late modernist
traditions. It is interesting to me that this is coming up here, in
that I see so little of total cinema, and also experimental cinema,
informed (insightfully) by painting generally.
When it is, I am most interested.
Myron Ort
On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Chuck Kleinhans wrote:
In some of his early writings Eisenstein argued for both "portrait"
and "landscape" mode in films (and editing that would allow for
both within the same work) and pointed out the possibilities of
circular framing of motion picture images.
There are lots of examples of non-framed or differently framed
works in projection based art, especially with multiple or
overlapping projections; counter culture light shows (usually with
live music) did this back in the 1960s (and a nod to Jordan Belson,
RIP). I've seen Carolee Schneeman present Kitsch'e Last Meal as a
two-projector piece with the projectors mounted vertically rather
than the usual side-by side.
Photography editors and visual designers often think and work in
terms of multiple and different sized/arranged images. Even photo
blogs like Tumblr offer a (standardized, cookie cutter) choice of
grids for displaying a photo essay (or a gif essay for that
matter). I haven't noticed anyone playing with that or designing
for it very creatively, but it's there as a possibility.
Chuck Kleinhans
On Oct 21, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Tom Whiteside wrote:
Rob’s brilliant question raises another point that has long
interested me – why don’t we make/look at circular images? Lenses
have always created circular images, but early photography put
square corners on images (cut into the circles) in order to, one
thinks, mimic the conventions of canvas stretched over frames. Yes
there are a few round paintings and other shapes (walls of caves
for starters), but the long history of image making has been all
about arranging images inside the corners.
- Tom
What frame ratio do people think is best for a painting and should
it be cropped later to fit the ready-made picture-frame?
Rob
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