Hi,

Yes, I agree with previous comments about adding yet another layer to the
film: don't, at least not as a long lasting projection solution.

If break-down / image degeneration during exhibition is your thing, then
that's another story. But it sounds like you want what you've made to stay
more or less the same.

Not sure how long your films are, as that might affect how easily you can
rephotograph them yourself.

If you have access to an optical printer, and your films are relatively
short, then then that would be the way I'd go. I work with a lot of folks
who optically print any direct animation / manipulation they do on 16mm
right off the bat, so they have a clean, lab-friendly negative / camera
original.

But get lots of isopropyl alcohol, as the projection side of the printer
will need cleaning. I'd look within your filmmaking community to see what
sort of optical printer access you have, and if there is a machine that
other people have used for this sort of slightly messier stuff.

Other list members might have solutions as to labs that deal happily with
this sort of thing. If your movies are long, then you might have to look
into something more specialized. But I would consider doing it yourself if
you have some equipment access. While it's slightly against the camera-less
film ideal, it's a measure that has frequently been made in order to ensure
that a decent print of your work is shown, and that doesn't gum up a
projector.

Isaac
Common Pictures


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Tom Whiteside <tom.whites...@duke.edu>wrote:

>  I don’t think you can safely add a layer of finish – ink and markers
> probably won’t change much, but craft paint is going to come off (to some
> degree) so if you want to project this (much) you need to make a print.***
> *
>
> ** **
>
> As I’m sure you are aware, the motion of the film through the projector is
> intermittent, it is vigorous, anything up on top of the surface of the
> plastic is going to come off.****
>
> ** **
>
> Good luck!****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Jarrett Hayman
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:02 PM
> *To:* FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> *Subject:* [Frameworks] painted film finisher****
>
> ** **
>
> Hello,****
>
> I have recently completed two films made using direct application
> techniques, such as hand painting with craft paint, india ink, permanent
> markers and other media. I would like to find a way to apply some kind of
> finish to the film so that the ink and paint do not continue to rub off
> with projection, but I'm afraid to use a spray finish for traditional
> paintings, as they are usually quite flammable. Any ideas?****
>
> -JH****
>
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