Re: Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?
I recommend Bruce Conner's "Crossroads" (1976).
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1. Re: Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema? (John Knecht)
2. Re: Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema? (petehumble)
3. Re: Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?
(Cláudia Faria)
4. Re: Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?
(Peter Snowdon)
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 12:33:33 -0500
From: John Knecht <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Weapons and the military in avant-garde
cinema?
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John,
Dan Reeves "Smothering Dreams" video and my 16mm film "Aspects of a Certain
History" both deal with the war in Vietnam as experimental media works.
Also Brakhage's "23 Psalm". If you would like a dvd copy of my film, I
would be glad to send you one.
John Knecht
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:49 PM, John McAndrew <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> For a little under a year my main source of income has come through
> working as a gallery warden in a historical museum specializing in arms and
> armour (it's a questionable place to work in admittedly, but anyway...).
> Recently the museum's cinema space has become freely available to staff
> members to use on evenings whenever it's available and given both the
> digital and potential film projection facilities available, and the cinema
> itself being housed in quite a unique location, I've been pondering over
> the idea of independently programming a selection of
> experimental/underground/artists' films and videos that ties together the
> "avant-garde" as we commonly know it with its original military
> terminology. Either way, it would make a refreshing change to the current
> programming decisions of showing Hollywood war and action films that
> everyone has seen a hundred times over...
>
> Can anyone on FrameWorks offer any suggestions for moving image works -
> both new or old, landmark or obscure, abstract or representative - that may
> explore such vanguard themes? Or know of any existing curated screenings or
> written texts that have also explored this connection? I'm open to hearing
> any and all suggestions for works involving the military and armed forces,
> weapon technology (firearms, explosives, swords etc), armour, combat
> and self-defence, historical battles or wars (maybe even fictional ones
> too), appropriated war/training films, critiques of the armed forces,
> militias, laws involving the right to keep and bear arms, etc etc etc...
>
> Many thanks for reading!
>
> Best,
> John
>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:29:36 +1100
From: petehumble <[email protected]>
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Norman McLaren's anti war film 'Neighbours':
http://www.nfb.ca/film/neighbours_voisins/
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> On 29 Jan 2014, at 7:49 am, John McAndrew <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> For a little under a year my main source of income has come through working
> as a gallery warden in a historical museum specializing in arms and armour
> (it's a questionable place to work in admittedly, but anyway...). Recently
> the museum's cinema space has become freely available to staff members to use
> on evenings whenever it's available and given both the digital and potential
> film projection facilities available, and the cinema itself being housed in
> quite a unique location, I've been pondering over the idea of independently
> programming a selection of experimental/underground/artists' films and videos
> that ties together the "avant-garde" as we commonly know it with its original
> military terminology. Either way, it would make a refreshing change to the
> current programming decisions of showing Hollywood war and action films that
> everyone has seen a hundred times over...
>
> Can anyone on FrameWorks offer any suggestions for moving image works - both
> new or old, landmark or obscure, abstract or representative - that may
> explore such vanguard themes? Or know of any existing curated screenings or
> written texts that have also explored this connection? I'm open to hearing
> any and all suggestions for works involving the military and armed forces,
> weapon technology (firearms, explosives, swords etc), armour, combat and
> self-defence, historical battles or wars (maybe even fictional ones too),
> appropriated war/training films, critiques of the armed forces, militias,
> laws involving the right to keep and bear arms, etc etc etc...
>
> Many thanks for reading!
>
> Best,
> John
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 19:46:39 +0000
From: Cláudia Faria <[email protected]>
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Beau Travail by Claire Denis
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:49 PM, John McAndrew <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> For a little under a year my main source of income has come through
> working as a gallery warden in a historical museum specializing in arms and
> armour (it's a questionable place to work in admittedly, but anyway...).
> Recently the museum's cinema space has become freely available to staff
> members to use on evenings whenever it's available and given both the
> digital and potential film projection facilities available, and the cinema
> itself being housed in quite a unique location, I've been pondering over
> the idea of independently programming a selection of
> experimental/underground/artists' films and videos that ties together the
> "avant-garde" as we commonly know it with its original military
> terminology. Either way, it would make a refreshing change to the current
> programming decisions of showing Hollywood war and action films that
> everyone has seen a hundred times over...
>
> Can anyone on FrameWorks offer any suggestions for moving image works -
> both new or old, landmark or obscure, abstract or representative - that may
> explore such vanguard themes? Or know of any existing curated screenings or
> written texts that have also explored this connection? I'm open to hearing
> any and all suggestions for works involving the military and armed forces,
> weapon technology (firearms, explosives, swords etc), armour, combat
> and self-defence, historical battles or wars (maybe even fictional ones
> too), appropriated war/training films, critiques of the armed forces,
> militias, laws involving the right to keep and bear arms, etc etc etc...
>
> Many thanks for reading!
>
> Best,
> John
>
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 22:46:18 +0100
From: Peter Snowdon <[email protected]>
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Hi John,
I think you and your audience would find Wendy Morris's Bully Beef
rather interesting, particularly the third part which is focused on
military technology:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tgPDj32PP4
http://www.art-action.org/proposition/catalogue/detail_cat.php?codeoeuvre=B37982&lang=en&qui=reali&oeuvre=B37982
Her film Off the record was made for the Flanders Field museum in Ypres,
and looks at the unequal treatment of black and white soldiers who
fought in WWI:
http://films2013.dok-leipzig.de/en/film.aspx?ID=5513
Peter
Le 28/01/14 21:49, John McAndrew a écrit :
> Hello all,
>
> For a little under a year my main source of income has come through
> working as a gallery warden in a historical museum specializing in
> arms and armour (it's a questionable place to work in admittedly, but
> anyway...). Recently the museum's cinema space has become freely
> available to staff members to use on evenings whenever it's available
> and given both the digital and potential film projection facilities
> available, and the cinema itself being housed in quite a unique
> location, I've been pondering over the idea of independently
> programming a selection of experimental/underground/artists' films and
> videos that ties together the "avant-garde" as we commonly know it
> with its original military terminology. Either way, it would make a
> refreshing change to the current programming decisions of showing
> Hollywood war and action films that everyone has seen a hundred times
> over...
>
> Can anyone on FrameWorks offer any suggestions for moving image works
> - both new or old, landmark or obscure, abstract or representative -
> that may explore such vanguard themes? Or know of any existing curated
> screenings or written texts that have also explored this connection?
> I'm open to hearing any and all suggestions for works involving the
> military and armed forces, weapon technology (firearms, explosives,
> swords etc), armour, combat and self-defence, historical battles or
> wars (maybe even fictional ones too), appropriated war/training films,
> critiques of the armed forces, militias, laws involving the right to
> keep and bear arms, etc etc etc...
>
> Many thanks for reading!
>
> Best,
> John
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FrameWorks mailing list
> [email protected]
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