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Re: would you send unexposed film by us mail to europe? > (Marco Poloni) > > > ---------- Message transféré ---------- > From: Marco Poloni <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 14:53:52 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] would you send unexposed film by us mail to > europe? > i would never ever send unexposed film through the mail. it's against > all safety rules in filmmaking practice. how would you really know > it's not going to be exposed to x-rays, even if you're told so by the > people at the counter? how do they know what the guys at some remote > airport or facility really do? not to mention mishandling, as > Francisco points out. > Marco > > On 31 January 2014 21:12, Francisco Torres <[email protected]> wrote: > > Maybe by a courier service, never through fedex or HDL.... I have heard > > horror stories of missing film. X rays may be a minor risk compared to > > misplaced negative. > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:29 PM, ev petrol <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> hey folks > >> wondering if it's safe to use the US postal service (in terms of x-rays > & > >> the like) for sending unexposed film from the US to Ireland ...? Any > advice? > >> thanks! Moira > >> > >> moiratierney.net > >> vimeo.com/moiratierney > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> FrameWorks mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > > > -- > > "A brave flat world." > > > marco poloni > usedomer strasse 8 > d - 13355 berlin > gsm de +49.163.6294080 > gsm ch +41.78.6322028 > skype marcopoloni > > > > ---------- Message transféré ---------- > From: Isaac Brooks <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 09:06:23 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] would you send unexposed film by us mail to > europe? > Moira, > > I've received and sent both unexposed and exposed film quite a few times > through the mail, more usually domestically as opposed to overseas, but I > have never once had a problem with either x-rays or handling. I think both > Francisco and Marco are in good practice however, as they're encouraging > you to protect your materials from the inconsistent stuff that happens from > one place to another. > > That said, I have had film go through the x ray machines at airport > security a lot, and practically all the film I have received is the mail, > or, I am willing to bet, was mailed at some point. Regarding the service > used, I'd actually trust FedEx over USPS + another postal service ANY day > of the week. Better tracking, better handling, less multiple > carriers, faster, but certainly a bit more $. But not worse in terms of > handling or reliable delivery. Just insure it for the max. > > I say perhaps mail some, and bring some with you personally. If anyone's > traveling with you, beg them to bring some too. Bring a dummy can/roll to > show airport people what you are carrying. Also, have a plan to protect > your exposed stock even more, as that's the priceless entity. I'd say > that's your bigger issue actually, unless you'll be processing somewhere > over there. Good luck, > > Isaac > > On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Marco Poloni <[email protected]> wrote: > >> i would never ever send unexposed film through the mail. it's against >> all safety rules in filmmaking practice. how would you really know >> it's not going to be exposed to x-rays, even if you're told so by the >> people at the counter? how do they know what the guys at some remote >> airport or facility really do? not to mention mishandling, as >> Francisco points out. >> Marco >> >> On 31 January 2014 21:12, Francisco Torres <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Maybe by a courier service, never through fedex or HDL.... I have heard >> > horror stories of missing film. X rays may be a minor risk compared to >> > misplaced negative. >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:29 PM, ev petrol <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> hey folks >> >> wondering if it's safe to use the US postal service (in terms of >> x-rays & >> >> the like) for sending unexposed film from the US to Ireland ...? Any >> advice? >> >> thanks! Moira >> >> >> >> moiratierney.net >> >> vimeo.com/moiratierney >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> FrameWorks mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > FrameWorks mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> "A brave flat world." >> >> >> marco poloni >> usedomer strasse 8 >> d - 13355 berlin >> gsm de +49.163.6294080 >> gsm ch +41.78.6322028 >> skype marcopoloni >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > > > ---------- Message transféré ---------- > From: Roshanak Elmendorf <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 11:06:02 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] would you send unexposed film by us mail to > europe? > Hi Isaac, > When you use FedEx do you( is it necessary to) mention unexposed film and > do you request special handling? > > On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Isaac Brooks <[email protected]> wrote: > > Moira, > > I've received and sent both unexposed and exposed film quite a few times > through the mail, more usually domestically as opposed to overseas, but I > have never once had a problem with either x-rays or handling. I think both > Francisco and Marco are in good practice however, as they're encouraging > you to protect your materials from the inconsistent stuff that happens from > one place to another. > > That said, I have had film go through the x ray machines at airport > security a lot, and practically all the film I have received is the mail, > or, I am willing to bet, was mailed at some point. Regarding the service > used, I'd actually trust FedEx over USPS + another postal service ANY day > of the week. Better tracking, better handling, less multiple > carriers, faster, but certainly a bit more $. But not worse in terms of > handling or reliable delivery. Just insure it for the max. > > I say perhaps mail some, and bring some with you personally. If anyone's > traveling with you, beg them to bring some too. Bring a dummy can/roll to > show airport people what you are carrying. Also, have a plan to protect > your exposed stock even more, as that's the priceless entity. I'd say > that's your bigger issue actually, unless you'll be processing somewhere > over there. Good luck, > > Isaac > > On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Marco Poloni <[email protected]> wrote: > >> i would never ever send unexposed film through the mail. it's against >> all safety rules in filmmaking practice. how would you really know >> it's not going to be exposed to x-rays, even if you're told so by the >> people at the counter? how do they know what the guys at some remote >> airport or facility really do? not to mention mishandling, as >> Francisco points out. >> Marco >> >> On 31 January 2014 21:12, Francisco Torres <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Maybe by a courier service, never through fedex or HDL.... I have heard >> > horror stories of missing film. X rays may be a minor risk compared to >> > misplaced negative. >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:29 PM, ev petrol <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> hey folks >> >> wondering if it's safe to use the US postal service (in terms of >> x-rays & >> >> the like) for sending unexposed film from the US to Ireland ...? Any >> advice? >> >> thanks! Moira >> >> >> >> moiratierney.net >> >> vimeo.com/moiratierney >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> FrameWorks mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > FrameWorks mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> "A brave flat world." >> >> >> marco poloni >> usedomer strasse 8 >> d - 13355 berlin >> gsm de +49.163.6294080 >> gsm ch +41.78.6322028 >> skype marcopoloni >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > Roshanak Elmendorf > [email protected] > roshanakelmendorf.com > > > > ---------- Message transféré ---------- > From: Isaac Brooks <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 10:28:07 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] would you send unexposed film by us mail to > europe? > No, I've never mentioned it. I have always been afraid of the > package being held up due to its uniqueness. Probably a risky idea. > > I'll say again, that precautions are justifiable, and that Marco's > previous comment about the overseas scanning is correct when it comes to > the mail. I've often just taken film with me as carry on, as those machines > subject the film to less. But motion picture film is supposedly more prone > to harm, and if you are going through more than one security checkpoint, > you may want to ask them to hand inspect it. > > > On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Roshanak Elmendorf < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Isaac, >> When you use FedEx do you( is it necessary to) mention unexposed film and >> do you request special handling? >> >> On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Isaac Brooks <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Moira, >> >> I've received and sent both unexposed and exposed film quite a few times >> through the mail, more usually domestically as opposed to overseas, but I >> have never once had a problem with either x-rays or handling. I think both >> Francisco and Marco are in good practice however, as they're encouraging >> you to protect your materials from the inconsistent stuff that happens from >> one place to another. >> >> That said, I have had film go through the x ray machines at airport >> security a lot, and practically all the film I have received is the mail, >> or, I am willing to bet, was mailed at some point. Regarding the service >> used, I'd actually trust FedEx over USPS + another postal service ANY day >> of the week. Better tracking, better handling, less multiple >> carriers, faster, but certainly a bit more $. But not worse in terms of >> handling or reliable delivery. Just insure it for the max. >> >> I say perhaps mail some, and bring some with you personally. If anyone's >> traveling with you, beg them to bring some too. Bring a dummy can/roll to >> show airport people what you are carrying. Also, have a plan to protect >> your exposed stock even more, as that's the priceless entity. I'd say >> that's your bigger issue actually, unless you'll be processing somewhere >> over there. Good luck, >> >> Isaac >> >> On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Marco Poloni <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> i would never ever send unexposed film through the mail. it's against >>> all safety rules in filmmaking practice. how would you really know >>> it's not going to be exposed to x-rays, even if you're told so by the >>> people at the counter? how do they know what the guys at some remote >>> airport or facility really do? not to mention mishandling, as >>> Francisco points out. >>> Marco >>> >>> On 31 January 2014 21:12, Francisco Torres <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Maybe by a courier service, never through fedex or HDL.... I have heard >>> > horror stories of missing film. X rays may be a minor risk compared to >>> > misplaced negative. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:29 PM, ev petrol <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> hey folks >>> >> wondering if it's safe to use the US postal service (in terms of >>> x-rays & >>> >> the like) for sending unexposed film from the US to Ireland ...? Any >>> advice? >>> >> thanks! Moira >>> >> >>> >> moiratierney.net >>> >> vimeo.com/moiratierney >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> FrameWorks mailing list >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > FrameWorks mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> "A brave flat world." >>> >>> >>> marco poloni >>> usedomer strasse 8 >>> d - 13355 berlin >>> gsm de +49.163.6294080 >>> gsm ch +41.78.6322028 >>> skype marcopoloni >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> Roshanak Elmendorf >> [email protected] >> roshanakelmendorf.com >> >> > > ---------- Message transféré ---------- > From: Marco Poloni <[email protected]> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 17:34:37 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] would you send unexposed film by us mail to > europe? > Isaac is right about motion picture film. You might end up in a hand > inspection siuation for the very simple reason that a motion picture > film can, contrarily to a still photography roll, contain a knife > (16mm) or a gun (35mm). So make sure your film is packaged in its > original light-tight plastic inside the can in case an operator asks > to open the can. > M > > On 1 February 2014 17:28, Isaac Brooks <[email protected]> wrote: > > No, I've never mentioned it. I have always been afraid of the package > being > > held up due to its uniqueness. Probably a risky idea. > > > > I'll say again, that precautions are justifiable, and that Marco's > previous > > comment about the overseas scanning is correct when it comes to the mail. > > I've often just taken film with me as carry on, as those machines subject > > the film to less. But motion picture film is supposedly more prone to > harm, > > and if you are going through more than one security checkpoint, you may > want > > to ask them to hand inspect it. > > > > > > On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Roshanak Elmendorf < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Isaac, > >> When you use FedEx do you( is it necessary to) mention unexposed film > and > >> do you request special handling? > >> > >> On Feb 1, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Isaac Brooks <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Moira, > >> > >> I've received and sent both unexposed and exposed film quite a few times > >> through the mail, more usually domestically as opposed to overseas, but > I > >> have never once had a problem with either x-rays or handling. I think > both > >> Francisco and Marco are in good practice however, as they're > encouraging you > >> to protect your materials from the inconsistent stuff that happens from > one > >> place to another. > >> > >> That said, I have had film go through the x ray machines at airport > >> security a lot, and practically all the film I have received is the > mail, > >> or, I am willing to bet, was mailed at some point. Regarding the service > >> used, I'd actually trust FedEx over USPS + another postal service ANY > day of > >> the week. Better tracking, better handling, less multiple carriers, > faster, > >> but certainly a bit more $. But not worse in terms of handling or > reliable > >> delivery. Just insure it for the max. > >> > >> I say perhaps mail some, and bring some with you personally. If anyone's > >> traveling with you, beg them to bring some too. Bring a dummy can/roll > to > >> show airport people what you are carrying. Also, have a plan to protect > your > >> exposed stock even more, as that's the priceless entity. I'd say that's > your > >> bigger issue actually, unless you'll be processing somewhere over there. > >> Good luck, > >> > >> Isaac > >> > >> On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Marco Poloni <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> i would never ever send unexposed film through the mail. it's against > >>> all safety rules in filmmaking practice. how would you really know > >>> it's not going to be exposed to x-rays, even if you're told so by the > >>> people at the counter? how do they know what the guys at some remote > >>> airport or facility really do? not to mention mishandling, as > >>> Francisco points out. > >>> Marco > >>> > >>> On 31 January 2014 21:12, Francisco Torres <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > Maybe by a courier service, never through fedex or HDL.... I have > heard > >>> > horror stories of missing film. X rays may be a minor risk compared > to > >>> > misplaced negative. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:29 PM, ev petrol <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> hey folks > >>> >> wondering if it's safe to use the US postal service (in terms of > >>> >> x-rays & > >>> >> the like) for sending unexposed film from the US to Ireland ...? Any > >>> >> advice? > >>> >> thanks! Moira > >>> >> > >>> >> moiratierney.net > >>> >> vimeo.com/moiratierney > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> FrameWorks mailing list > >>> >> [email protected] > >>> >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > FrameWorks mailing list > >>> > [email protected] > >>> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> "A brave flat world." > >>> > >>> > >>> marco poloni > >>> usedomer strasse 8 > >>> d - 13355 berlin > >>> gsm de +49.163.6294080 > >>> gsm ch +41.78.6322028 > >>> skype marcopoloni > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> FrameWorks mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> FrameWorks mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >> > >> > >> Roshanak Elmendorf > >> [email protected] > >> roshanakelmendorf.com > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > > > -- > > "A brave flat world." > > > marco poloni > usedomer strasse 8 > d - 13355 berlin > gsm de +49.163.6294080 > gsm ch +41.78.6322028 > skype marcopoloni > > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >
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