can we return to the WAB discussion for a moment? The settings you are
describing are essentially a moot point because the WAB video system
compresses whatever file you upload to a DISASTROUSLY crappy/tiny/offensive
video frame of, if I am remembering correctly 480x360. This coupled with
the service, overall, being extremely spammy, expensive, poorly designed,
ineffectual, especially for independent makers, turns me off to the entire
thing to the point where I won't apply to a festival if they require a WAB
entry and don't offer an alternative of at least a vimeo link send-in. I
understand that festivals need tools to help them manage data, etc. But WAB
seems like the worst possible solution.

Are there more filmmaker friendly tools or projects out there to help with
this problem? Do people know how we got so hooked on WAB hegemony?


On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:21 AM, Peter Snowdon <pe...@redrice.net> wrote:

> Aaron,
> thanks! I guess my question was, what is the safest setting for multiple
> unknown computer/projector combinations...:) It seems 720p would avoid a
> lot of problems in itself.
> Peter
>
> Envoyé de mon iPad
>
> > Le 15 févr. 2014 à 09:55, "Aaron F. Ross" <aa...@digitalartsguild.com>
> a écrit :
> >
> > It depends on what equipment will be screening the MP4 file. What is the
> native resolution of the projector? What is the computer that will be
> playing back the file? Encode the file to the maximum resolution and
> bitrate that the system can handle, and no more.
> >
> > Usually a 1080p master should be encoded at 20 megabits per second,
> two-pass variable bit rate encoding. This is Blu-ray standard quality.
> >
> > Certain types of footage, especially fast motion or flicker, may benefit
> from setting the compression keyframe distance explicitly. There's no way
> to recommend what that distance should be, it's totally footage-dependent.
> I would do an encode without a specific keyframe distance and see if the
> result looks good. If you are seeing frame blending or other artifacts, set
> the keyframe distance to 24 or 30, depending on source frame rate. That's
> one keyframe per second. If you still see artifacts, reduce the keyframe
> distance incrementally. If keyframe distance is set to the minimum of 1,
> then each frame is compressed individually (interframe) and there is no
> interpolation across frames (intraframe). This is an extreme setting that
> may cause more problems than it solves, but I'm describing options.
> >
> > The potential issue with high bitrate encoding is that the playback
> computer has issues playing it back. If the processor or hard drive is not
> fast enough, the playback will stutter and drop frames. This has happened
> to me personally, and it utterly sucks in ways I can't begin to describe.
> Therefore I suggest also encoding a 720p file as a backup in case the
> target playback system chokes on the 1080p file. Encode the 720p file at 10
> megabits per second, two pass variable bit rate.
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> >
> > At 2/15/2014, you wrote:
> >> While we're on this topic, I've just been asked for mp4 files for
> projection from a computer. Would any Frameworkers care to share settings
> they've used successfully? I'm working from 1080 masters, and I'm on a Mac,
> where I understand that all the mp4 presets sacrifice quality to
> compression. Thanks in advance, Peter Envoyé de mon iPad > Le 15 févr.
> 2014 à 02:31, "Aaron F. Ross" <aa...@digitalartsguild.com> a écrit : >
> > Hey Sandra... > > You need an MP4 file. That means it's encoded using
> H.264 compression. Don't bother with Quicktime. Don't bother with any other
> compression types. They will take too long to upload. > > If it's standard
> definition (DVD quality), make sure it's encoded with a bitrate of at least
> 3 megabits per second. > > For 720p extended definition, go for 10 megabits
> per second. > > For 1080p full high definition, the bitrate should be 20
> megabits per second. > > To give you an idea of resulting file sizes... > >
> 3 megabits per second will yield a file size of 23 Megabytes per minute of
> footage. > > 10 megabits/sec will be 75 Megabytes per minute of footage. >
> > 20 megabits/sec will be 150 Megabytes per minute of footage. > > Let me
> know if you have more questions. > > Aaron > > > > At 2/14/2014, you wrote:
> >> This is embarassing...as a FILMmaker I finally got used to submitting on
> DVD, and now...its Withoutabox to submit to Edinburgh Black Box. I have
> attempted to weed my way through the application but the first thing I need
> to know is what specs to give to the person doing the video transfer - what
> type of file are we talking about.  Can someone help !?!?!?!? thank you,
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