Thank you Fred for your essay!

(winter here too, but our sky is blue today)

Els van Riel

On 11 Feb 2018, at 21:31, Fred Camper <> wrote:

I have been staying away from "meta" comments on this list in recent years, but 
now I cannot resist. What follows is all seriously off-topic, so feel free to 
The only negative comment I can make to Jonathan is that none of the mistakenly 
sent personal emails over the years have even remotely measured up to the 
gentle, almost poetic love letter someone posted by mistake -- someone who then 
vanished from the list.  We never did learn how far along the affair, or 
hoped-for affair, progressed, but I for one hope it blossomed into bliss.
I will try to see a Beebe show when I can.

But the other comment, to Jonathan and all, is that I have more than one friend 
who has reported strange depressions and other disconnections in the last year. 
And I have had to admit to myself that I am part of this too -- how else to 
explain staying in bed most of some days, alternating between doing nothing and 
reading the news on my phone, when things i would enjoy much more, and actually 
believe in, beckon? And I have a diagnosis for us: we are depressed because the 
world is going to hell. Or as Jonathan put it, our civilization might not make 
it. The planet might not too.

It is not just that "short-fingered vulgarian" at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue; 
look at what is going on in Poland, Hungary, Turkey, the Philippines, and many 
other countries: just as bad, though mostly without the threat of nuclear 

I have a theory. There was a drought in Syria a decade ago, causing huge 
migration to the cities, providing people with nothing much to do. Many fought 
in the coming civil war. There are many causes for droughts; climate change 
could be on contributor. Is much of the entire migrant crisis due to climate 
change? Given that Trump's election win was so narrow, it probably was; even 
though the decline of coal was not caused by climate-sensitive 
environmentalists, many voters thought it was. The unpredictable and surprising 
effects of climate change seem likely to me to cause populations to the 
rational thinking that is essential to democracy and seek out "Great Leaders," 
however hideous they might be. If these effects are happening now, with a sea 
level rise of less than a foot since 1900, I shudder to think of the result of 
the sea level rising only one foot from here, something that seems inevitable. 
There are many more effects besides flooding, including increasingly harsh 
weather extremes, such as massive storms, of which we have already seen a few.
I sure hope I am wrong, that we will institute fixes for the climate (which 
will however require massive carbon-removal projects as well as an end to 
emissions) before it is too late, and that in a few years we will be seeing 
democracies progress again. But meanwhile the US is ruled by a would-be despot 
who thinks that the Democrats' failure to applaud his speech constitutes 
treason, also showing that they do not love their country very much (which, by 
the way, is not the same thing as treason). Applauding the leader's speech = 
loving one's country. I can think of other countries whose governments would 
claim that, but all are bad dictatorships.
I cannot believe that even the rational do-gooder "good people" are mostly not 
acting on the massive threat climate change presents. Curing disease in Africa, 
as the Gates Foundation is doing, will make no difference in the face of this 
potential apocalypse.

I have a short, somewhat related essay, titled Trump, Bach, and Me, at <> in both 
print and audio form.
Fred Camper

On 2/11/2018 9:33 AM, Jonathan Walley wrote:
> Ha Ha! I used to heap scorn and mockery upon people who accidentally sent 
> personal emails to listservs by incorrectly replying. But now I have made the 
> same embarrassing gaffe! Oh, woe is me.
> Well, now everyone knows about my very high opinion of Roger Beebe’s work, 
> which you absolutely should see if Roger comes to your town, as well as my 
> personal anguish and agony - and I welcome any commiserating responses, as 
> well as scorn and mockery. I could have pretended it was an intentionally 
> post-modern “review” of Roger’s show, in the tradition of published letters 
> to and from filmmakers and critics (Dear Stan Brakhage…), but I decided to be 
> honest instead. But Roger, since it’s now public, you’re welcome to use my 
> email in any and all publicity for your forthcoming programs. 
> Sorry everyone for unwittingly - wittlessly - opening the grimy window onto 
> my stupid problems.
> All best,
> Jonathan
> Dr. Jonathan Walley
> Associate Professor and Chair
> Department of Cinema
> Denison University
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