mm serra may have some light to shed in this discussion re: fmc. Unintended pun 
acknowledged. 

Owen P.


> On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Chrissie Iles, Curatorial 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Responding to this thread (and Anthony can correct me as he is on this list), 
> Anthony McCall’s spatial film works that Jonathan mentions are not in 
> distribution catalogues because, like Paul Sharits’ location works and other 
> expanded cinema works from that period, they are multiple projection works 
> made to be shown in the physical space of the gallery rather than in cinemas, 
> where it would be impossible to show them. ‘Line Describing a Cone’ and 
> ‘Partial Cone’ were the exception to this because they are single 
> projections. I would be wary of the good old days of film versus the art 
> world argument, or the implication that the inclusion of ‘Line Describing a 
> Cone’ in ‘Into the Light’ somehow made his 1970s works less accessible. The 
> opposite is true. The early works have been restored, and anyone who wants to 
> show them can contact his gallery, Sean Kelly or Anthony himself. Likewise, 
> Tony Conrad’s yellow movies can still be borrowed, and are seen more widely 
> than ever before. The Whitney has ‘Yellow Movie 2/26/73’ (1973) and six 1970s 
> collage drawings by Conrad in its collection.  Many artists (like Carolee 
> Schneemann, Bruce Conner, Taka Iimura, Harry Smith, Stan VanDerBeek, Jack 
> Smith, Hollis Frampton, et al) did not work exclusively in one world or the 
> other; their refusal of purity (which the yellow movies specifically address) 
> articulated a fluidity of approach that laid the ground for the current 
> pluralism of the field (though sadly not its racial and gender diversity, 
> which is finally being addressed in a long-needed correction).    
> Chrissie 
>  
> From: FrameWorks <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Eric 
> Theise
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:32 AM
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]>; 
> Jonathan Walley <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Anthony McCall's films
>  
> Continuing along Jonathan's line of inquiry, courtesy BAMPFA's Film Library 
> and Study Center. I know McCall's Line Describing a Cone is from 1973 but I'm 
> not familiar with the dates in the rest of his filmography so here's the full 
> dump.
>  
> Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number One (1966): no McCall.
> Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two (1969): no McCall.
> Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number One (1969): 
> no McCall.
> Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number Two (1970): 
> no McCall.
> Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number Three 
> (1970): no McCall. Curt McDowell makes a first appearance with A Visit to 
> Indiana (1970).
> Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three (1972): no McCall.
> Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three Supplement (1973): no McCall.
> Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three Supplement Number Two 
> (1974): no McCall.
> Combined with my previous email, the only McCall work available in Canyon 
> catalogs #4-#8 was Light Describing a Cone.
>  
> Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #4 (1967): no McCall. Lots of Markopoulos 
> though!
> Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #5 (1971): no McCall.
> Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #6 (1975): no McCall.
>  
> Light Cone Additif Avril 1991: no McCall.
> Light Cone Catalogue (Mars 1994): no McCall.
> Light Cone Catalogue 1997: Line Describing a Cone only. 250F.
> Light Cone Catalogue 2001: Line Describing a Cone only. 55 €.
>  
> LUX catalogs were not available on my visit today.
>  
> A few bonus publications:
> Filmmakers Co-Operatives Catalogue of Independent Film (1975/76) & Supplement 
> (January 1977). These are Australian publications representing co-ops in 
> Brisbane, Perth, Hobart, Sydney, Melbourne, plus the South Australia Media 
> Resources Centre (Adelaide). But no McCall.
>  
> Film Programmer's Guide to 16mm Rentals, Third Edition (1980). Edited by 
> Kathleen Weaver, Associate Editor Richard Prelinger, Consulting Editor Linda 
> J. Artel. Lists Line Describing a Cone as available from CAN (Canyon) for 
> $40. I'm realizing now that I didn't check the other titles in that book. 
> Will circle back and check, sorry.
>  
> As an aside, I completely forgot about that book. Seeing the cover (below) 
> transported me back to John Schofill's kitchen table in Chicago, mid-80s, 
> making lists of films to show at Randolph St Gallery. Also forgot to mention 
> it to Rick Prelinger who chatted with Kelly Sears about her work after 
> tonight's screening at BAMPFA.
>  
> Also below:  I don't recall seeing those Lenny Lipton designs before.
>  
> Eric
>  
> <image001.jpg>
> <image002.jpg>
>  
>  
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 9:06 AM Eric Theise <[email protected]> wrote:
> Canyon #4 (1976), #5 (1982), #6 (1988), #7 (1992), #8 (2000): Light 
> Describing a Cone is the only work available. I've also checked the 
> supplements from 1988, 1989, 1990, 1993, 1994, 1995.
>  
> McCall is not even in the Film-makers' Coop catalog #7 (1989).
>  
>  
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 7:58 AM Ken Eisenstein <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have the following hard copies of Canyon:
> 
> #4-1976
> #7-1992
> no no.-2000
> 
> plus 
> Supplements from 93,94,95
> 
> and can check through them later today
>  
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Jonathan Walley <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello Frameworkers,
>  
> I know you all have better things to do, but if anyone has 1) a spare moment 
> or two, and 2) old print copies of Canyon Cinema or Filmmakers’ Co-op 
> catalogs, I have a question.
>  
> Currently, only two of Anthony McCall’s solid light films are available for 
> rental from Co-ops: Line Describing a Cone and Conical Solid (this includes 
> Canyon, FMC, Light Cone, and LUX). I believe I recall that Cone of Variable 
> Volume and Partial Cone were once available from at least some of these 
> co-ops (not sure about Long Film for Four Projectors, but I’ll throw that 
> into the mix, too). 
>  
> Can anyone confirm? This means going rather far back, as I assume that the 
> availability of these films changed after “Into the Light” and McCall’s new 
> cycle of solid light films, circa 2001/2/3.
>  
> Back when you could event rent a Yellow Movie, at least from FMC. Ah, the 
> days before moving image art.
>  
> Thanks in advance for any info, ideas, suggestions.
> All best,
> Jonathan
>  
>  
> Dr. Jonathan Walley
> Associate Professor and Chair
> Department of Cinema
> Denison University
> 
> 
>  
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