hmmm i didnt know it was cheaper... have to look into it! thanks to all for the tip. as usual, money is tight in film land
2019-03-21 12:07 GMT-04:00, trevor adams <trevor...@hotmail.com>: > Mr. Antos is correct, sir. It's less than half the going rate of reversal. > Also, this particular stock doesn't have the backing which makes > hand-processing arduous (as it's been explained to me). And ignorance is > about the most cultivated quality in my work! > Trevor Adams > sinemodafatestare.com > > > Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> > > ________________________________ > From: FrameWorks <frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com> on behalf of > Julian Antos <jul...@chicagofilmsociety.org> > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 12:14 AM > To: Experimental Film Discussion List > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock? > > I think the appeal is that it’s much cheaper! > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:11 PM Francisco Torres > <fjtorre...@gmail.com<mailto:fjtorre...@gmail.com>> wrote: > pardon my ignorance but I have never understood the use of print stock > as camera original. Would using reversal accomplish similar results? > > 2019-03-20 12:20 GMT-04:00, MONO NO AWARE > <mononoawaref...@gmail.com<mailto:mononoawaref...@gmail.com>>: >> https://vimeo.com/290301242 >> >> Results from our workshop. 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Then I process in Tetenal E6 in a lomo reel/tank. Recipe below. >>> >>> FD: 100 degrees F, 2:45min >>> H2O: 5min, warm, not warmer than 100 degrees F >>> CD: 100 degrees F, 6min >>> H2O: 5min, warm, not warmer than 100 degrees F >>> BLIX: 100 degrees F, 6min >>> H2O: 10min, cool. >>> Stabilizer out of tank: 30sec >>> Shake reel >>> Hang film to dry >>> >>> Also, Mono No Aware has had successful results with C41. >>> >>> Always, >>> Anna >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> anna kipervaser >>> 847.571.6943 >>> >>> annakipervaser.com<http://annakipervaser.com> >>> yellowfilmlab.com<http://yellowfilmlab.com> >>> onlookfilms.com<http://onlookfilms.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:03 AM >>> <frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Send FrameWorks mailing list submissions to >>>> >>>> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> >>>> frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com> >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> >>>> frameworks-ow...@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks-ow...@jonasmekasfilms.com> >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of FrameWorks digest..." >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Re: Barbara Hammer, RIP (Dominic Angerame) >>>> 2. tips for shooting on print stock? (trevor adams) >>>> 3. Re: tips for shooting on print stock? (Scott Dorsey) >>>> 4. Re: tips for shooting on print stock? (Nicole Baker) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Dominic Angerame >>>> <dominic.anger...@gmail.com<mailto:dominic.anger...@gmail.com>> >>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >>>> <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>> >>>> Cc: >>>> Bcc: >>>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 09:23:19 -0400 >>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Barbara Hammer, RIP >>>> I am so sorry to hear this. I worked with Barbara for many years while >>>> at >>>> Canyon Cinema and always admired her courage, strength and commitment >>>> to >>>> avant- cinema and women filmmakers around the world. >>>> >>>> Her dynamic energy is certainly a loss to the community. >>>> >>>> Dominic Angerame >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2019, at 10:54 PM, Ruth Hayes >>>> <randomr...@comcast.net<mailto:randomr...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I just want to acknowledge Barbara Hammer’s passing, her influence on >>>> so >>>> many experimental filmmakers, including myself, and her courage, >>>> playfulness and indomitable spirit. >>>> >>>> Peace, >>>> >>>> Ruth Hayes >>>> >>>> http://www.randommotion.com >>>> >>>> blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr<http://blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com> >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: trevor adams >>>> <trevor...@hotmail.com<mailto:trevor...@hotmail.com>> >>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >>>> <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>> >>>> Cc: >>>> Bcc: >>>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 16:20:12 +0000 >>>> Subject: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock? >>>> Hiya one'n all, >>>> >>>> I'm seeking any advice/ tips for shooting on 3383 color vision print >>>> stock, with a bolex. Everybody I've spoken to says use an ASA of 5, >>>> I'm >>>> not sure if i should even take light readings? Anything would be >>>> helpful... >>>> Thanks, >>>> Trevor Adams >>>> >>>> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Scott Dorsey <klu...@panix.com<mailto:klu...@panix.com>> >>>> To: >>>> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> >>>> Cc: >>>> Bcc: >>>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 14:25:49 -0400 >>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock? >>>> 5 seems optimistic. Shoot a test. >>>> --scott >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Nicole Baker <neba...@pnca.edu<mailto:neba...@pnca.edu>> >>>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List >>>> <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>> >>>> Cc: >>>> Bcc: >>>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 15:12:57 -0700 >>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock? >>>> I haven't tried print stock, but have played with film I made myself >>>> (handmade emulsion applied to clear leader) and that is also rated at a >>>> 5 >>>> (if that). I would still absolutely take light readings, especially if >>>> you're pointing at the light source, you might be surprised how much >>>> light >>>> it throws off. Maybe try spot metering instead of ambient. I find >>>> that >>>> helps me "see" the scene the way the film might. >>>> Post your results! I'd love to see them. >>>> >>>> Nicole Elaine Baker >>>> MFA in Visual Studies, 2019 >>>> Pacific Northwest College of Art >>>> Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies >>>> *www.magiklantern.com<http://www.magiklantern.com> >>>> <http://www.magiklantern.com>* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:20 AM trevor adams >>>> <trevor...@hotmail.com<mailto:trevor...@hotmail.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hiya one'n all, >>>>> >>>>> I'm seeking any advice/ tips for shooting on 3383 color vision print >>>>> stock, with a bolex. Everybody I've spoken to says use an ASA of 5, >>>>> I'm >>>>> not sure if i should even take light readings? Anything would be >>>>> helpful... >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Trevor Adams >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com> >>>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com> >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com> >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > -- > Julian Antos > Chicago Film Society > www.chicagofilmsociety.org<http://www.northwestchicagofilmsociety.org/> > 773 827 8991<tel:(773)%20827-8991> > > _______________________________________________ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks