hmmm i didnt know it was cheaper... have to look into it! thanks to
all for the tip. as usual, money is tight in film land

2019-03-21 12:07 GMT-04:00, trevor adams <trevor...@hotmail.com>:
> Mr. Antos is correct, sir.  It's less than half the going rate of reversal.
> Also, this particular stock doesn't have the backing which makes
> hand-processing arduous (as it's been explained to me).  And ignorance is
> about the most cultivated quality in my work!
> Trevor Adams
> sinemodafatestare.com
>
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> I think the appeal is that it’s much cheaper!
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:11 PM Francisco Torres
> <fjtorre...@gmail.com<mailto:fjtorre...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> pardon my ignorance but I have never understood the use of print stock
> as camera original. Would using reversal accomplish similar results?
>
> 2019-03-20 12:20 GMT-04:00, MONO NO AWARE
> <mononoawaref...@gmail.com<mailto:mononoawaref...@gmail.com>>:
>> https://vimeo.com/290301242
>>
>> Results from our workshop.   A few water marks, but for their first time
>> in
>> the lab processing, to be cross processing and have these results its
>> pretty good, could have used a darker orange filter, but it was overcast
>> and we couldn't forfeit the light.
>>
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>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 12:13 PM Anna Kipervaser
>> <anna.kiperva...@gmail.com<mailto:anna.kiperva...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am often shooting on 3383; I use an 85 filter (orange to compensate
>>> for
>>> lack of orange base in the stock and to get near true color) and rate
>>> 3383
>>> at 3. Then I process in Tetenal E6 in a lomo reel/tank. Recipe below.
>>>
>>> FD: 100 degrees F, 2:45min
>>> H2O: 5min, warm, not warmer than 100 degrees F
>>> CD: 100 degrees F, 6min
>>> H2O: 5min, warm, not warmer than 100 degrees F
>>> BLIX: 100 degrees F, 6min
>>> H2O: 10min, cool.
>>> Stabilizer out of tank: 30sec
>>> Shake reel
>>> Hang film to dry
>>>
>>> Also, Mono No Aware has had successful results with C41.
>>>
>>> Always,
>>>  Anna
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 16:20:12 +0000
>>>> Subject: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?
>>>> Hiya one'n all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm seeking any advice/ tips for shooting on 3383 color vision print
>>>> stock, with a bolex.  Everybody I've spoken to says use an ASA of 5,
>>>> I'm
>>>> not sure if i should even take light readings?  Anything would be
>>>> helpful...
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Trevor Adams
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>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 14:25:49 -0400
>>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?
>>>> 5 seems optimistic.  Shoot a test.
>>>> --scott
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>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 15:12:57 -0700
>>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?
>>>> I haven't tried print stock, but have played with film I made myself
>>>> (handmade emulsion applied to clear leader) and that is also rated at a
>>>> 5
>>>> (if that).  I would still absolutely take light readings, especially if
>>>> you're pointing at the light source, you might be surprised how much
>>>> light
>>>> it throws off.  Maybe try spot metering instead of ambient.  I find
>>>> that
>>>> helps me "see" the scene the way the film might.
>>>> Post your results!  I'd love to see them.
>>>>
>>>> Nicole Elaine Baker
>>>> MFA in Visual Studies, 2019
>>>> Pacific Northwest College of Art
>>>> Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:20 AM trevor adams
>>>> <trevor...@hotmail.com<mailto:trevor...@hotmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hiya one'n all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm seeking any advice/ tips for shooting on 3383 color vision print
>>>>> stock, with a bolex.  Everybody I've spoken to says use an ASA of 5,
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> not sure if i should even take light readings?  Anything would be
>>>>> helpful...
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Trevor Adams
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