On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:49:59 -0700 (PDT)
yuval levy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- Matthias Buelow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Yuval Levy wrote:
> > 
> > > Usability
> > > is a count on which FreeBSD has weaknesses,
> > > especially in the eye of the
> > > large segment of users who value a GUI, i.e. those
> > > coming from the Windows world.
> > 
> > Maybe, but I only speak for myself, and not for that
> > large segment of
> > users who value a [Windows-style] GUI.
> 
> It is the market share that speaks for the silent
> majority who values and uses such a GUI.
> 
> > I always found X11 more useful
> > than Windows, if only because I could resize dialog
> > windows, something
> > that still doesn't seem to have made it into many
> > Windows programs.
> 
> Agree that Windows has a lot of nuisances, besides, it
> always sticks in my face and interrupts me.
> Unfortunately most GUIs do, making multitasking a
> pain.
> 
> I personally find the differences between the existing
> GUIs less important than the applications that run on
> them. I take whatever there is for a default, as 90%
> of the users do (according to usability lab results).
> 
> So I use Windows, I use Gnome (at least I think this
> is the default of Fedora Core 3) and I sometimes use
> KDE (default of Knoppix?). I have heard of X11 but I
> do not know much about it. Is it the underlying layer
> to both Gnome and KDE? No offense meant, but the
> further away from the application, the least I know. I
> am a dummy by choice.

Yeah, X11 is what is used to display the graphics. A tool kit is then
used to make that job simpler. The toolkit used by Gnome is GTK+ and
for KDE it is QT. It is a rather nice system, despite what you hear
from all the idiots on slashdot and ect.
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