On 1/9/06, Andrew L. Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 05:32:48 -0600
> Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 1/8/06, Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 1/5/06, Frank Laszlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Kövesdán Gábor wrote:
> > > >>> Nikolas Britton wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On 1/4/06, James Cornell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> never mind, I just made one so go sign it!!!
> > > >>>> http://www.petitiononline.com/flash4me/petition.html
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> I've signed it and posted it to a Hungarian open-source
> > > >>> community, but I think it would be nice if somebody from the
> > > >>> doc team can add it to the news on the website, so I cc'd
> > > >>> freebsd-doc@, I hope this helps geting Adobe to release a
> > > >>> working Flash for FreeBSD.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regards,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Gabor Kovesdan
> > > >>
> > > >> Not to rain on the parade, but since when has one of those online
> > > >> petitions done any good?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > It may be trivial but at least I did something to rectify it.
> > > > Talking about are problems will get us nowhere unless we also do.
> > > > Do you have a better plan of action?
> > >
> > > The problem is, anyone can sign a petition, even those that don't,
> > > nor will ever, use the software, which is what makes them
> > > meaningless :(
> > >
> > > You really need to get someone on the inside that is using FreeBSD
> > > and push from that direction ... unless its a product you can pay
> > > for, and then you make the dollars speak for you ...
> >
> > I make all IT, purchasing, decisions at my company. I suspect most
> > other senior IT folk also make or have strong influence in,
> > purchasing, decisions at their company's. What are the demographics
> > for people who use FreeBSD? I suspect a higher then normal percentage
> > of senior IT folk make up the ranks. Here's an excellent example of
> > the point I'm trying to make: Last year my company wanted to build a
> > flash website. I put my foot down and said no, not everyone can use or
> > see flash websites. Macromedia lost a $999 dollar sale.
> >
> > >
> > > What about the FreeBSD Foundation ... maybe something that they can
> > > organize?
> >
> > I'm all for that and other organisations getting involved, maybe they
> > can actually do something too.
>
> How about a campaign where every time a FreeBSD user comes across a
> Flash website, he/she sends the webmaster an email stating that we
> can't see their content because Flash is not available for FreeBSD?  I
> wonder if we could generate a noticeable volume.
>

I remember Firefox / Mozilla having a system like this. They had a
website that you could post / list sites that didn't work with the
browser, then we would send complaints to the site owners.
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