On 11/04/12 11:48 -0400, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
> Set a meeting place, make sure there are lots of flags on the walls (I
> prefer red, white & blue) and also make sure that during all the ranting
> and chanting going on that you unveil the newest, leetist golden
Excellent troll feeding ! But it's going nowhere.
A too long mail to just say : "We must do BSD licence advocacy"
That's obvious we need pull developers to the BSD friendly side,
an try to convince big players (big projects) could be a good way.
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 05:40:24AM -0000, toredhiddenu...@tormail.net wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > There are many people who use GPL for their projects unaware of the terms
> > of license. We can observe that most "new technologies" and protocols are
> > licensed under BSD-license.
> > As you are already subscribed to the mailing list, you probably have much
> > education of licenses and may be aware of dreadful deeds of GNU * License.
> > The main problem is "Viral" copyleft nature. Anything that even LINKS to
> > the GPL'd files SHOULD BE under GPL, as you may probably know.
> > LGPL is viral too. MPL, on the other hand, didn't catch much attention,
> > but if you imply the protection of source code by means of copyleft, hope
> > it's the best way around: Less restrictions, but provides copyleft nature.
> > Apparently, new developers who are unaware of copyrights, release their
> > source into GPL.
> > The new developer communities have an inclined trend towards GPL like:
> > "The projects we see are GPL'd. Why don't we use that license?"
> > Some companies, (probably the worst) use the GPL to force an "addiction"
> > and to force a need of dual-licensing. ****** and *** ************
> > (removed because of problem) use this license for such purpose. Doesn't it
> > seem like some sort of Blackmail?
> > BSD people should start a project to request some near-mature projects to
> > beta-projects to be licensed under BSD/MIT style license, or, at least MPL
> > (better than GPL, anyhow).
> > (Is the name BSDActivists and BSDActivism) nice?
> > There have been many proposals by some people, you can observe:
> > These proposals were collected (probably) anonymously, for privacy of the
> > doers. These attracted attention. Summary:
> > Audacity: Dominic Mazoni (lead developer), Re-licensing request failed
> > (needs $);
> > Matt Brubeck: failed (but affirmative, says he have released
> > other code under MIT license, but doesn't apparently have right
> > to do relicensing.)
> > Removing OpenAL from SFML: Failed, they say there is no "better one"
> > PAQ compression, Matt Mahoney: New compression method, ZPAQ is Public
> > Domain.
> > CppCMS: needs $ to do so
> > Wikipedia: FAILED, for a reasonable reason
> > EFF HTTPS Everywhere / Vidalia / TorButton : IN PROGRESS
> > Request for Kaos.To to remove Privoxy and to include Polipo: NO RESPONSE YET
> > BSD developers should start an activism to promote the BSD license and to
> > make re-licensing request to developers. All BSD promoters should take
> > notice on this. Don't be afraid if this is posted on multiple BSD mailing
> > lists, like OpenBSD's or NetBSD's, because, it's probably the time to
> > unite all the BSD people.
> > Is anyone interested?
> > Thank you for your patient reading.
> > Sorry for the last e-mail which was somewhat so-rant-like: Thanks to Eitan
> > Adler for pointing out.
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