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> There is no such thing as a desktop market for *BSD or Linux. There never
> has been and there never will be.
Oh come on now, it depends on a couple of things, and I wouldn't go that
far. I've got a lot of family members that know next to nothing about
computers, and I got tired of fixing them all the time.
Just as an example, my cousin basically destroyed his parents computer and
got a job, and bought himself a brand new computer, and had me set it up.
This was a while back and his Windows XP Home computer took all of one week
too have issues. I updated Windows and saw he had never tried.
I installed Spybot and AVG and updated them and ran them. When I got back
home, I checked them and they had found over 12,000 infections! Everything
from trojans and back doors, to those fake security centers.
He is an idiot when it comes to this stuff and I don't mind saying so. The
weird thing was that all he did on this computer, was go online with a web
browser, IM with friend's, and listen to music and download all types of
things. He did do some homework in between porn marathons too.
My point for all this is that I eventually did something that worked; I
installed Linux on his computer, made a script to keep it updated, and
basically, I had KDE installed, Gnome, and a few others, and by setting up
KDE and putting Web browser short cuts on the desktop, a shortcut to some
IM clients, an XMMS shortcut, and a few others so that he could do what he
was doing. I set up some Office suites as well, and this worked. His
machine stayed up to date without any issues, and he no longer had any
You know you opened a can of worms with that one. Because all the nerds are
going to step up and say "Well, I run FreeBSD on my desktop! It's totally
Like I said, I wouldn't go that far; Those of us on this list probably
aren't fans of Windows, and probably only use it when required, but in the
example I gave above, I found that people who know literally nothing about
computers in general, do really well with Linux and BSD as long as I took
the time to set up the desktop for them and installed all the stuff they
needed and placed the shortcuts on the desktop. It worked really well. Even
my Mom who knows nothing about computers, can sit down and use Linux or BSD
without any trouble, as long as the desktop is set up properly.
Dear nerds, get some perspective. You aren't an end user, and you're
masochistic. It's okay, we accept you here. But your individual use case
doesn't indicate a place in the market. Your basement isn't a market. It's
a basement. Your small company isn't a market. It's a small company. Many
companies combined create a market.
Back to sleep.
Now see, that has a point, but I do personally think that Unix not only
does fine on the desktop, but depending on which version, some versions are
more suited to being used as a desktop than others; PC-BSD for example,
along with SUSE and even Mandriva, all work well for this.
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