i thank you, sir, for your thoughts.
Oliver Fromme wrote:
spellberg_robert wrote:
> i need to get some new monitors, but, it has been a_while.
>
> when i was buying "crt" monitors i would get sony [ love that "trinitron" tube !!! ].
> nec was frequently recommended, although i never got around to trying any.
> however, time marches on.
> the "lcd" technology seems to be the current rage.
>
> q: if reliability was your only concern, which manufacturers [ 1, 2, 3 maybe ] would you recommend ?
>
> i like to tweak.
> the kind of manufacturer i want is one whose manual gives h & v frequencies
and sync timings
> [ thank you, mr. lehey, for your excellent explanation of "mode_lines";
> my first attempt, so many years ago, worked on the first try
> ].
When I used CRT monitors I also used to tweak mode lines,
but I haven't done that in ages. It's best to forget about
them alltogether. In today's world of digital monitor
signals (DDC, DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, whatever), the
graphics card and the monitor will negotiate the values
themselves.
hmmm, some of the moboes that i recently purchased have something called
"dvi-d" on them,
right next to the 15_pin d_sub "vga" port [ all have vga ].
i guess i've got a new play_toy.
i'll have to look into this.
> You don't have to do anything.
[ slow burn, then, sigh ] that's the problem with the world, today.
when people don't --have-- to do anything, people don't --learn_how-- to do
anything.
oops, i digress.
You should also note that the refresh rate is pretty much
irrelevant for LCD displays. While 85 Hz did make sense
for CRT monitors in order to avoid flickering, that's not
necessary with LCD monitors. They won't flicker with
60 Hz which is a very common refresh rate for LCD.
this is useful to know.
while i --have-- seen some that claim a f_vert up to 85_cps,
75 seems to be a popular top_end.
I can't recommend a certain manufacturer, though.
no worries; other thoughts are good, also.
My recommendation is to go to a shop, look at several
monitors and take the one you like best, irrespective
of the manufacturer. Do *NOT* buy an LCD display that
you haven't seen with your own eyes before. I'm serious.
holy moses !!!
you are reinforcing my long_held belief that lcd is a downgrade from crt.
By the way, back in the CRT days, my favourite was EIZO.
not familiar, but, i've heard the name.
maybe, i saw some in grad_school.
i --know-- i saw the name on a retailer's web_site, yesterday.
I disliked Sony.
freedom_of_choice is good [ that'll get the secret_police after me ].
My EIZO F563-T is still standing in a
corner of my desk and is being used occasionally. Must
be at least 12 years old now, but still working fine.
today's world is a "throw_away" world, my friend.
Well, my > 20 years old Commodore 1084S is also still
working fine and being used to playback DVDs. It's
not useful as a computer monitor by today's standards,
though. :-)
Sorry for the digression ...
no need to apologize; digression is good [ i'm over here, officer ].
i'm a big fan of stream_of_consciousness.
that reminds me of a story ... .
Best regards
Oliver
in the course of researching this topic, i have learned much about the
technology.
what i don't get, else_where, are the useful tid_bits like "refresh_rate is not such
a big_deal, anymore".
i remain convinced that crt is superior to lcd.
however, my options are few
[ yes, i --have-- started researching the used_crt market;
ya pays your money, ya takes your chances
].
i think much of this has to do with my "fear of the missing pixel".
i guess it's not so major to the action_movie crowd, but, i do text_editing,
which is --very--, --very-- static.
[ for the record, i do --not-- watch video on a computer monitor; but, that's
me.
most of the product that i am seeing seems to be targeted at this market.
at home, i have a dvd_player, a crt_ntsc_tv and a very_easy_chair.
i do not mix myrna_loy with matt_drudge.
}
remember what i said about backing_off my pixel_count from 1600_h to 1440_h ?
characters were mal_formed and distinctly dim [ i do yellow foreground,
dark_blue background ].
it is as if the electron_beam was "clipping" the sides of the "holes" in the
shadow_mask.
i am the kind of person who, once he has found something that works "well" [ let alone
"very well" ],
tends to stick with it, because it is a "solved problem".
also, i tend to buy several copies of something, so that i have spares [ think "sump
pump" ].
third, i like to get, at least, one from the top of the product_line
[ so that i have it, when i really need or want some feature ] and
several from the middle of the line
[ because they are "good enough", "most of the time" ].
with this in mind, i am familiar with the dis_satisfaction with the "twisted
nematic" technology.
iirc, i was aware of this previously, but, had forgotten.
this will guide my thinking.
[ further research has defined the middle_of_the_line:
i need 1642_h at a minimum; 1680_h seems to be popular, so, i may get some
of these.
with 1920_h, however, i can put a narrow window on the side [ about 45 chars
].
another app requires 2092_h, so, 1920_h leaves me short; however, this app is
less critical.
it looks like i want to avoid tn.
this brings me back to choice_of_manufacturer.
]
the next time i drive into town, i'll have to stop into the big_box_store to
have a look_see.
sorry to go on at such length; once my brain gets going, my fingers tend to
follow.
rob
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