I've been working with ftp and PAM lately and I noticed that when there is no entry for ftp in pam.conf the following messages are generated in the system logs: Dec 14 11:04:11 frink ftpd[61865]: no modules loaded for `ftpd' service Dec 14 11:04:11 frink ftpd[61865]: auth_pam: Permission denied My question is, is "Permission denied" the correct error message to use here? The first message seems fine, but the second part seems to imply that the user was denied access. Looking through pam_strerror.c there doesn't seem to be a good error code for "no module entry in pam.conf" (PAM_SERVICE_ERR perhaps?). Just trying to avoid confusion down the line. Thanks, Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message