On Apr 22, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Dimitry Andric wrote:

> On 2012-04-22 16:51, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>> On Apr 20, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Doug Barton wrote:
>>> On 4/20/2012 5:16 AM, Jan Sieka wrote:
>>>> I can't build world from recent sources (HEAD as of 2012.04.19 11:06:48
>>>> UTC) on a machine running FreeBSD 7.3.
>>> 
>>> That's not a supported configuration. We don't promise support for
>>> $VERSION on anything less than the most recent version of $VERSION - 1.
>> 
>>      I'm sorry, but given the error below shown by Jan I don't buy this 
>> argument. It seems like file's objects are is trying to link against an ABI 
>> incompatible libc and failing. The build system should handle this properly 
>> if you invoke the top-level targets (buildworld, buildkernel, distribution).
> 
> This is trickier than you think: the error occurs during the build-tools
> stage, where everything that builds still uses the host's toolchain and
> libraries (e.g. the 7.x versions).  So if you try to build a program
> that uses getline(), it will not be able to link.  This is what happens
> with the 'mkmagic' tool.
> 
> However, this will have started failing just very recently, since obrien
> updated to a new file(1) version, and regenerated the config.h file:
> 
>  http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/lib/libmagic/config.h?r1=208341&r2=234449

And this is why NetBSD runs autotools on their tree sources in their build 
instead of dealing with stale config.h files -- which also brings up the bug of 
what happens if support is available on one architecture, but not the other? 
Doesn't happen often and I hope it wouldn't happen in sources imported into 
FreeBSD, but I've seen it happen in the past with various open source projects.

> Maybe some hackery could be inserted in lib/libmagic/Makefile, so during
> the early stages a 'toned down' config.h file is used.  The libmagic
> source has its own getline implementation in contrib/file/getline.c, so
> maybe that could be used instead.

That seems like a good idea for the time being.

On the other hand (and this is probably a dumb question), but why is libmagic 
required in the build-tools stage?

> On the other hand, going from 7.x to HEAD via the 'official' route would go 
> like:
> 
> - Update 7.x to the latests 7-STABLE
> - Update 7-STABLE to 8-STABLE
> - Update 8-STABLE to 9-STABLE
> - Update 9-STABLE to 10-CURRENT
> 
> It is *way* easier to just grab a recent 10-CURRENT snapshot ISO and
> just reinstall. :)

Ugh. The usecase (that's now broken) is that Jan from Semihalf might have been 
running CURRENT builds on an older (stable) build machine. I have done this a 
couple times in the past (but not regularly because I usually follow the above 
prescribed method or just hop 1-2 major versions).

Other groups I've worked with use the same major version or higher than the 
running build because of chroot hackery involved in the build process.

Thanks,
-Garrett_______________________________________________
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