On 2013-10-08, at 11:17 AM, Freddie Cash <fjwc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ‚ÄčI haven't kept up-to-date with all the developments, but isn't this part of 
> the bsdinstall/pkgng plan?  Once the pkgng repos are all available and 
> populated, then bsdinstall will be able to install packages from there during 
> the install.  And, isn't that part of the plan for the DVD installers, to 
> include an "installer repo" for off-line installs?
> 
> IOW, theoretically, one could just download the 10.0 DVD, boot, install the 
> base, browse the repo on the DVD, select items to install, install, reboot, 
> and be finished.  Without ever needing to touch an Internet connection until 
> after rebooting into FreeBSD, if it's even needed at all.

The big issue here is having access to the distfiles.  We rarely, if ever, 
install pre-compiled packages, because we don't know how they have been 
configured.  Quite often the packages are built with features or dependencies 
we don't want, or are built without features we *do* want.  Instead, we 
configure and compile the port according to our requirements, then build a 
package from that for internal use.

For this to work in a disconnected environment, you need a ports tree with a 
fully populated distfiles/ directory.  The hack we came up with was to put a 
FreeBSD host on the external network, on which we ran a script once a week or 
so that would do the something like 'portsnap fetch update; portsclean -DD; for 
in in /usr/ports/*/*; (cd $i && make fetch); done'.

That would give us a (mostly) populated /usr/ports/distfiles. We would then 
rsync /usr/ports from the public machine onto a USB drive. That drive would 
then be disconnected from the public machine and attached to an internal file 
server, and its /usr/ports rsynced to the file server's /usr/ports.

Not pretty, but it got the job done.  But that /usr/ports tree is way too big 
to fit on a DVD.  In fact, it might even be too large for a BD-ROM.  (I don't 
have access to the file server right now to check.)

--lyndon

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