> -----Original Message----- > From: Eitan Adler [mailto:li...@eitanadler.com] > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 10:47 PM > To: hack...@freebsd.org; curr...@freebsd.org; freebsd- > advoc...@freebsd.org > Subject: Leaving the Desktop Market > > Hi all, > > Some of you may have seen my posts entitled "Story of a Laptop User" > and "Story of a Desktop User". For those of you who did not, it can be a > worthwhile read to see what life is like when using FreeBSD as a desktop. In > short, it is an educational experience. While FreeBSD can be coerced to do > the right thing, it is rarely there by default and often doesn't work as well > as > we would expect. > > The following are issues I haven't brought up in the past: > > Battery life sucks: it’s almost as if powerd wasn't running. Windows can run > for five hours on my laptop while FreeBSD can barely make it two hours. I > wonder what the key differences are? Likely it’s that we focus so much on > performance that no one considers power. ChromeOS can run for 12 hours > on some hardware; why can't we make FreeBSD run for 16? > > Sound configuration lacks key documentation: how can I automatically > change between headphones and external speakers? You can't even do > that in middle of a song at all! Trust me that you never want to be staring > at > an HDA pin configuration. I'll bet you couldn't even get sound streaming to > other machines working if you tried. > > FreeBSD lacks vendor credibility: CUDA is unsupported. Dropbox hasn't > released a client for FreeBSD. Nvidia Optimus doesn't function on FreeBSD. > Can you imagine telling someone to purchase a laptop with the caveat: "but > you won't be able to use your graphics card"? > > In any case, half of our desktop support is emulation: flash and opera only > works because of the linuxulator. There really isn't any reason for vendors > to > bother supporting FreeBSD if we are just going to ape Linux anyways. > > That is why on this date I propose that we cease competing on the desktop > market. FreeBSD should declare 2014 to be "year of the Linux desktop" and > start to rip out the pieces of the OS not needed for server or embedded use. > > Some of you may point to PCBSD and say that we have a chance, but I must > ask you: how does one flavor stand up to the thousands in the Linux world? >
Eitan, While I understand your frustration, VICOR is using FreeBSD as a Desktop since FreeBSD 2.2. We don't use sound and we are fine relying on vesa. While I understand that the things you listed are actual short-comings for normal Desktop users, I think it's the wrong decision to say that we should be backing out *any* functionality that would make the Desktop any more difficult to produce. As it stands, it would take me weeks just to count the number of workstations that are running a GUI, rely on one of the existing video drivers (nv, radeon, mach64, etc.) and use lots of Desktop ports. -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _______________________________________________ firstname.lastname@example.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"