On 17 July 2014 13:15, Navdeep Parhar <npar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>> On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares <amijar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd <adr...@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi!
>>>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
>>>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
>>>> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of a
>>>> problem;
>>> No. Please NEVER do that! The user must be able to edit the files and
>>> start the service by himself.
>> Cool, so what's the single line command needed to type in to start a
>> given package service?
> Aren't sysrc(8) and service(8) for this kind of stuff?

Yup, and if the default is going to be off, then you want the
instructions to be "type this in", not "edit this file."

There's odd things too, like "oh look I installed xorg, but then I
can't run it without enabling hald/dbus, then starting it.. oh wait,
no mouse, so I have to reboot for them to come up right" kind of crap.

That's the kind of thing that turns people away.

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