On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 09:57:44PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Adrian Chadd <adr...@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box > > 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it > > can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of a > > problem; > > > I disagree on this. For network services on linux ( apart from ssh ), I > want that started very seldom. But I do want the package installed so that > when I need it, it is there. Having it autostart as part of being installed > is breaking KISS and in some way unix philosophy: I asked for something to > be installed, not installed and autostarted. > > > 5) .. and then we need examples of actually deploying useful > > scenarios, like "so here's what you type to get django working right", > > "here's how you get a default memcached that works well", "here's how > > you bring up node.js", etc. > > > Oh yes. I think that quite a few packages have default options that make > them unsuitable for out-of-box usage, ie some lack the sane default > dbi-stuff and so on. > Reporting them is very much needed, we try to change this but without report it is hard, as much as I can I use vanilla packages now, and I discovered that they are now pretty much sane, a few example has been found and modified recently like nginx not supporting https by default, so do not hesitate to report any unsuitable options for out-of-box usage.
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