Same here. I would personally definitely buy new hardware from Intel if
FreeBSD worked on it (not vesa...)

However, the problem now is not the driver right? But the whole graphics
stack which has to be rewritten to work with new generation graphics like
KMS, Wayland, etc?

On Thursday, September 17, 2015, Adam McDougall <>

> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:43:59PM +0100, David Chisnall wrote:
>   On 17 Sep 2015, at 11:31, Lundberg, Johannes <
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>   >
>   > Anyway, I wish the foundation would support the graphics team by
> sponsoring this development…
>   The Foundation did fund a lot of this work, and likely will again.  The
> problem is not
>   willingness of the Foundation to fund it, nor availability of funds.
> I was not aware of this and am happy to hear it!
>   Long term, the real solution is to convince GPU vendors to put as much
> effort into
>   funding FreeBSD driver development as they do into funding Linux and
> Windows driver
>   development.  The Foundation has been reaching out in this direction,
> Glad to hear this too.  It is more comforting to hear.
>   but it’s far more compelling if people can document cases where lack of
> FreeBSD support
>   has cost a vendor sales.  If you’ve bought a system with an nVidia or
> AMD GPU (or,
>   ideally, if your company has bought a few thousand) because of lack of
> FreeBSD support
>   from Intel, then let Intel know.
>   David
> In all seriousness, do you have a suggested contact for us?  I can't offer
> bulk sales
> avoidance but on a personal level I am clinging to a 4.5 year old laptop
> and would
> replace it tomorrow with another higher end model if I had any practical
> choices for
> FreeBSD graphics support.  Even nVidia is not a checkbox solution on
> laptops because as
> far as I understand it you still have to deal with Optimus which cannot
> simply be
> disabled as in the past.  I also have considerable stability problems with
> the nVidia
> driver on my desktops and I will be reporting it very soon after some
> debugging.  Thanks.
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