> On Apr 19, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Matthew Grooms <mgro...@shrew.net> wrote:
> On 4/19/2016 3:09 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>> As far as I know, nobody is taking the source code or the Makefiles
>> away, so if somebody doesn't like the system being distributed with
>> pkg, they can very well roll their own.
>> It's nice to see the level of enthusiasm the FreeBSD project can
>> muster, I just wish it wasn't always enthusiasm for stopping progress.
> Maybe I missed an email in this thread, but I don't recall anyone completely 
> rejecting the idea of packaging the base system. What I see is a discussion 
> related to doing it in the best way possible.

Sadly the tenor and tone of the discussion isn’t one where progress is made. 
The tone has been a bit toxic and demanding, which grinds people into dust, 
rather than motivating them to fix things. You might call it a discussion, but 
it reads to me more as a bunch of angry villagers storming the castle. No good 
can come from that. Tone down the outrage by a factor of 100 and try to have 
the conversation again.


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