It's lack of communication.
> *This* is the reason that *this* and similar topics become so heated; > People who are part of a "community", such as FreeBSD. Want to feel > they are part of the "big picture", and immediately feel resentment, It is in fact much more than that. Surely there are such psycho-social effects as you describe, after all we humans are subject to hundred os socio-psycological biases. But there is a much more practical and mundane issue as well: People who use this operating system in their operations have a great stake in it. Such changes affect operations. I welcome change, but at the same time I try to ensure that change goes smoothly. Investing in BSDs by using them in our operation is not a whim, or a decision made drunk under a bridge. It costs us money, time , investment in educating other people to administer those OSEs, continuous education to keep up with change. More than all this, it costs us business reputation when we decide to build an infrastructure for a client on BSDs, and something goes wrong. And I want to keep my customers happy and so far the BSDs delivered this. > when they find they were left out of "big" decisions, like pkg(8). IMO, Its not a problem to be left out of decisions. First, because they are not our decisions to take, and second because I believe decisions are better to be made by small group of persons. What is a problem is the fact that when you discuss those projects and voice your opinions, some label you "anti progress", some " peasant storming a (lord's) castle (with or without a pitchfork,cant remember :P) , others feel that you dont appreciate them and their time, and then they retreat somewhere. You can invalidate the decision made by said group by stoping using the product. Im sure none would care in the unlikely even that I would stop using FreeBSD, but I think they cared when Yahoo stopped using it. Or if they did not, they should have cared :P > People who are part of a "community", such as FreeBSD. Want to feel > they are part of the "big picture", and immediately feel resentment, > when they find they were left out of "big" decisions, like pkg(8). > While the conversation may well have been heated. It would *not* > have meet *quite* as much adamant, persistent resistance. Because > it (pkg) would have been molded into something from the culmination > of the "community'" input. > > This is only from 50 years in the service industry, and the > thousands of mailing lists I've been on, talking here. > > --Chris > >> >> -- >> Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 >> p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 >> FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe >> Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by >> incompetence. >> _______________________________________________ >> firstname.lastname@example.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > email@example.com mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" _______________________________________________ firstname.lastname@example.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"