Eugene Grosbein wrote: > 11.05.2019 22:59, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > >> 11.05.2019 21:32, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >> > >>>> I've posted a review to remove obsolete 10 and 10/100 Ethernet drivers > >>>> as previous approved in FCP-101. > >>>> The following drivers are slated for > >>>> removal from FreeBSD-HEAD (to be FreeBSD-13): > >>>> > >>>> ae, bm, cs, de, ed, ep, ex, fe, pcn, sf, sn, tl, tx, txp, vx, wb, xe > >>> > >>> OMG ! ed ! That EOL's loads of PC boxes I have (& a show box of > >>> spare) that will never be able to upgrade. > >> > >> Do those boxes have 10M-only or 100Mbps variants of ed(4)? > >> What kind of hardware do they have (CPU and memory-wise)? > > > > Thanks for question. I ran a quick check: > > cd /usr/src; > > # Apply my patches: > > # customise `pwd` > > # http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/bin/.csh/customise > > cd /sys/amd64/conf > > grep device [A-Z][A-Z][A-Z][A-Z].small | grep ed > > DUAL.small:device ed > > FILM.small:device ed > > KING.small:device ed > > LAPA.small:device ed > > LAPD.small:device ed > > LAPL.small:device ed > > LAPN.small:device ed > > LOFT.small:device ed > > MINI.small:device ed > > SCAN.small:device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 15 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 0x10000 > > SLIM.small:device ed > > SNOW.small:device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 > > WIND.small:device ed > > I've asked not for configuration files but for description of hardware. > ed(4) supports many different models. Some of them do 10Mbps only > but some are 100M-capable including PCI-connected. > > And it's interesting to know what is CPU and memory type/amount of boxes.
Info I had long pre saved, exported here: http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/FreeBSD/hosts/ Many boxes run newer releases than logs show, but eg dmesg shows memory etc. Re Gary's: > 2) what versions of FBSD is Julian now running on his hardware? > 3) does he ever plan to upgrade this hardware to >= FBSD 13? Not many, if any of them; I should idealy find time to purge some, but I also have sundry newer PCs, & spare ed etc cards, so a pity to loose ed. More generaly It won't be just me with ed. With 13 I can power up any time, (+ other pcmcia & PCI & ISA cards in boxes) there's probably many more globaly. But sys admins often don't have time to read developer lists like current@ & arch@. So developer considering zapping things, will not be seen by users it will hit later. First many will know is seeing in a RELNOTES "XYZ will be removed in release [0-9].[0-9]" No chance to answer an earlier "Are many still using XYZ, we're thinking of deleting it ?" If ed is the biggest legacy NIC, best be cautious ? (BTW I also have 2 boxes running today's current, not just old Rels here.) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, Consultant Systems Engineer, BSD Linux Unix, Munich Aachen Kent http://stolenvotes.uk Brexit ref. stole votes from 700,000 Brits in EU. Lies bought; Groups fined; 1.9 M young had no vote, 1.3 M old leavers died. _______________________________________________ email@example.com mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"