In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" writes

>It's up to the user to decide what security level he needs.
>Both ought to be possible but having an insecure box ought
>to be an explicit decision.

Principle of POLA:  The box doesn't come up in a stupid configuration
right after install.

Principle of "tools, not politics": You can configure it stupidly if
you want, you can also strengthen it beyond practical use if you want.

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